Episode 861: Invest in Others – Interview with Orly Wahba– Part 2

May 3, 2021 By Scott Leave a Comment

Join us today for Part 2 of the Interview with Orly Wahba creator of The Kindness Boomerang...

This is Part 2 of the interview I had with speaker, author, and kindness expert Orly Wahba.

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In today’s interview with Orly Wahba, I ask Orly why the greatest gift we can give another is to actually see them. I also ask Orly how Kindness affects the workplace. Orly and I also talk with you about kindness and why it doesn’t mean you will be taken advantage of

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Episode 861 Invest in Others - Interview with Orly Wahbaâ€“ Part 2
[00:00:00] Scott Maderer: [00:00:00] Thanks for joining us on episode 861 of the inspired stewardship podcast.
[00:00:07] Orly Wahba: [00:00:07] I'm OrlyWahba. I challenge you to invest in yourself, invest in others, develop your influence and impact the world by using your time, your talent and your treasures to live out. Your calling focus on kindness is a key and one way to be inspired to do that is to listen to this.
[00:00:24] The inspired stewardship podcast with my friend, Scott Maderer.
[00:00:29]why do you care? I'm so mean to you? I'm so mean to you. Why do you care? Just give up already. He was angry that I cared. Why? Because he didn't trust that people really do care. Now I know what that's like. Cause I was that kid. I didn't trust the people really cared. So I tested them all the time and I looked at him point blank in the eye and I said, So because I see the world and you, I think the world of you, and what I see in you is I see
[00:00:55] Scott Maderer: [00:00:55] me welcome.
[00:00:57] And thank you for joining us on the inspired [00:01:00] stewardship podcast. If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to be, then you must learn to use your time, your talent and your treasures for your true calling and the inspired stewardship podcast. We'll learn to invest in yourself. Invest in others and develop your influence so that you can impact the world
[00:01:23]in today's interview with Orly Wahba. I asked orally why the greatest gift we can give another is to actually see them. I also ask orally how kindness affects the workplace and orally. And I also talk with you about kindness and why that doesn't mean you will be taken away of what the reason I like to bring you great interviews.
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[00:02:34] Orly Wahba is the founder of the global nonprofit life vest inside a kindness expert, an educator, a best-selling author and entrepreneur, and a keynote speaker who inspires audiences to take action. Her talks and workshops provide the groundwork for lasting change and motivate people to become the best versions of themselves so that they can influence the world for good.
[00:03:00] [00:02:59] Orally is also the Arthur of and created the viral video, the kindness, boomerang drawing from her personal journey, groundbreaking science and her signature with orally inspires people to tap into the power of kindness, the most underutilized skill in today's world through her talk, Orly demonstrates how kindness and a simple shift in perspective can alter the way a person connects with themselves and connects with the world around them.
[00:03:29] Welcome to the show early.
[00:03:31] Orly Wahba: [00:03:31] Thank you so much, Scott, for having me, I'm really honored to be here
[00:03:35]Scott Maderer: [00:03:35] early last week. One of the things that you mentioned is that one of the greatest gifts that we can give another human being is to actually see them. So when you talk about actually seeing another human being, what does that really mean to you?
[00:03:54] Orly Wahba: [00:03:54] So it actually brings up a story for me. Whenever I hear those words, there's two stories that come to [00:04:00] mind for me.
[00:04:00] They both have to happen to do with people that are homeless. I've had many people that are homeless and you'll understand when I tell you a story. I remember I was at Madison square garden. I'm a big basketball fan, played my whole life. So at Madison square garden, New York watching a game.
[00:04:17] And when the game ended there's thousands of people coming out. Thousands of people. And in the midst of these thousands of people I see on the street, this guy, this man sitting in a wheelchair in full army get-up and he had a cup in one hand and a sign in the other, but it wasn't the cup or the sign or his clothes really that stood out most was his eyes.
[00:04:42] All he was doing. Scott, all he was doing was just scouring the crowd, looking back and forth, just hoping you could see the hope in his eyes, hoping. Wishing that somebody would just connect with him, all these people walking by. And so I saw him there and again, [00:05:00] part of seeing somebody is actually seeing yourself in them because I went through an experience where I felt very much alone.
[00:05:07] I felt unseen. It actually increases your awareness to see people that also feel unseen. So I have to say that's actually, and we've all gone through hard experiences. I'm not the only one. Every one of us has gone through something hard. And every one of us has gone through a point where we maybe didn't feel seen the question is, are we going to use that experience that you went through to help you start to see people?
[00:05:27] And so there I wasn't, I was with my friends. And so I said, guys, do me a favor. Go ahead. I'll meet you in the car. I'll be right there. And on the corner, there was a hotdog stand. So I went over to the hotdog stand. And I got a hot dog and I got a bottle of water and I came on up and I was a little bit nervous.
[00:05:43] I didn't know how he was going to react, and so I tap him on the shoulder and I said, Hey, and he was shocked. And he's hi, I'm like my name's Orlene, what's your name? He's my name's Hutch said, how's it going? How much has your day? And we start talking back and forth for a few minutes, just sharing.
[00:06:00] [00:06:00] And finally I build up the courage to give him this hotdog. I was a little bit nervous. I said, listen, Hutch, I don't know if you want this or not, but I got you this, I got you this hot dog. And he was silent. And he looked down at the hot dog in my hand and he looked back up at me and he looked back down at the hotdog.
[00:06:19] He looked back up at me and then he said to me, and he's staring right in my eyes. And he said, you see me? He just kept asking the question. You see me. I said, of course, I see you. He had tears in his eyes. I had tears in my eyes. We converse for a few more minutes and I left him with a kindness card that I was telling you about.
[00:06:41] And as I walked away, our eyes were locked. Hutch was the main inspiration behind kindness, boomer. And he's actually in the film. You'll see that there's a man that looks exactly like him. He was a black man wearing army get-up is sitting there. He looks it. It's almost like the same kind of guy.
[00:06:57] And we [00:07:00] connected in such a deep way. I can't tell you, but it's funny because with another experience I had also with somebody homeless and sometimes I don't have necessarily money to give somebody. But what you could always give somebody is you could give them a few minutes of your time, very often, we have a choice. Every act in that, every single scene in that kindness, boomerang film, I always say I, if I were to use one word to define that whole film, that you're going to see. Is not the word kindness. It's the word choices. Every person in that film had a choice that a choice to walk on by to continue on with their day or to stop and engage and to see.
[00:07:33] And it's not necessarily, it's not that difficult, but sometimes we don't want to see because we fear having to then take responsibility. So we make believe like we don't see. It's easier to not feel that you have that responsibility. It's much easier not to see the hardships, right? It's a reason why they say ignorance is bliss.
[00:07:53] There's a reason why it's said, because the moment that you start to see you then start to feel a [00:08:00] responsibility. And most people rather not feel that sense of responsibility. It's too painful. Now it doesn't mean you always have to act then maybe you're not always going to act maybe nine out of 10 times.
[00:08:12] You won't make the right choice, but maybe that one time you will. And that's something because just one person's life that you touch, isn't just them. You're touching the lives of all the people that are going to come into contact with, because that is the ripple. Our lives are so interconnected and so intertwined.
[00:08:32] We are feeling people. We feel. What's something when somebody doesn't one side of the world effects somebody on the other. If anything, COVID has taught us that in the negative, how infectious one person can beat, but the opposite is also true. Very much and even more powerful way that the positive is also very infectious and has an ability to spread far beyond our little four cubits.
[00:08:58] So we need to recognize that [00:09:00] and to start seeing ourselves. In others.
[00:09:03]Scott Maderer: [00:09:03] So one of the things that you've put out into the world is this kindness, boomerang book, the, and I love the subtitle of it, how to save the world and yourself through 365 daily acts of kindness. So you're using this as a tool and you talked a little bit about it last week, about bringing more kindness into our workplace or school or our culture, whatever it is that you live in.
[00:09:29] So how is this actually making a change? Workplaces and schools and those sorts
[00:09:36] Orly Wahba: [00:09:36] of things. Okay. Credible question. So the book itself, it's a lesson that they book in kindness. So one page for every day of the year, and is broken down into an act of kindness and inspirational quote, and then a short reflection on the power of paying it forward, connected to that specific act.
[00:09:52] And throughout the course of the book, there are 12 categories of kindness, whether it be kindness with yourself, which is actually the first category. And there's a reason [00:10:00] just like you said, with the title and yourself is because oftentimes we forget about ourselves and that's, that is not kindness is not forgetting about yourself and it's not allowing yourself to be a doormat that does not equal kindness.
[00:10:11] And so whether it be suit yourself in the workplace, in the home, with strangers, with nature, so on and so forth. And how is it being utilized? Utilized? It's been really interesting to see how people utilize it and people share with me, I myself put out ways to utilize it, but people have shared so many interesting ways that they're utilizing it in their day-to-day life.
[00:10:29] So I'll give you a few exams, apples, for example, in schools. So there's a few ways. One we have teachers I've had teachers that reach out to me and have been incorporating it into the daily announcements in their school. Meaning they, their school starts off. Some schools do this, that every morning they have a daily announcement.
[00:10:45] And to start off the day and the principal reads the act, the quote, and the reflection, which takes 30 seconds of time. In order to kickstart the mindset of the kids to begin to see again, it's all that awareness [00:11:00] to see that opportunity. Because if somebody mentioned something to you, the likely to do more likely to see it, it's the same reason why, you know, if you never heard of a song before and somebody tells you about it, some of you hear it on every radio station it's because your awareness is more tuned in.
[00:11:13] And so therefore you're hearing it. And so that's one way. We've also had teachers reach out where each morning in their classroom, they're doing a reading from the book or writing an act on the board. And once a week, they allow their students to come up with an act and write it on the board. I've had a teacher reach out to me and told me that she has her students keep a kindness journal.
[00:11:35] That every Friday, what they do is they have the section off the period, like a 30 minute time slot on Friday, where they read the act and then they engage in. Conversation and discussion about that specific act. What's hard about it. What's easy about it, how to engage in it. And then the students go ahead and their task, their challenges to engage in that act, whether they were able to do it or not.
[00:11:58] And this is what I loved about what [00:12:00] she was saying, whether they can do it or not to journal about the experience, because sometimes understanding why something is hard, can be very helpful. So these are some ways that they've been incorporated in schools. They've also been incorporated in workplaces because we have a section in there of kindness in the workplace.
[00:12:18] So we've had, I've had CEOs reach out to me and say that they start their meetings by reading the entry from one of the kindness in the workplace pages to help set the tone, because what that does, number one, it shows your community, your staff, that a culture of kindness and a culture of inclusivity and across a culture of.
[00:12:39] Of inspiration is something that you're interested in doing that. It's not just about the numbers. Now I understand in business, numbers are a very important part. However, there is scientific evidence to show and to prove that when a person is feeling happier, when they're feeling connected, they're going to be more efficient.
[00:12:56] They're going to be more productive. They're going to be more loyal to the [00:13:00] company so much so that it said that when they did a study and it said that eight, eight employee. That feels, this sense of connection to the company feels like they matter that their voice matters that they're actually being seen and heard.
[00:13:14] Even if another job comes along, that's going to give them more money. They're more likely to stay loyal and stay in the company because they feel part of a team. This is the essence. And the core of kindness is making people feel like you see them and like you hear them. And so by being able to incorporate this into your culture, Okay.
[00:13:31] Even having, we had a one company that has a leaderboard, a kindness leaderboard, where they're actually being awarded for engaging in kindness. There, there has been companies that create the catching kindness cards with codes. We have them like with a code and. Where individuals will, once they are they're passing it, there'll be able to log in and to write down what their action was.
[00:13:55] And they can track and see which employees have engaged in the most [00:14:00] the most acts of kindness. So there's loads of ways to be able to incorporate this into the. Atmosphere and the spirit I put out a, also a a newsletter called the daily kind. It goes out Monday through Friday, and many businesses have shared with me that they share this message with their staff members on a daily basis.
[00:14:20] Again, it sets a tone and the likelihood is people within the office that are reading something like this are going to engage in an act of kindness, more readily. With their own colleagues, which again creates an amazing workplace environment, which is just extremely important.
[00:14:38] Scott Maderer: [00:14:38] Awesome. So one of the things I know you talk a lot to and do speaking events is in schools. And we were just touching on that a little bit about how, teachers are integrating it. Why do you pay so much attention to kids when it comes to talking about kindness?
[00:14:55] Orly Wahba: [00:14:55] First of all, I love kids more than anything in the whole world.
[00:14:57] Honestly, they, I always say I'm [00:15:00] still a nine year old kid. I just, haven't been a 38 year old body. And I can't believe it when I say that number. I'm like, what in the world are you serious? But I'll tell you what it is. And I've always said it since I was a kid. I was that kid. My mom tells me the story over and over that when it was my birthday, I was four years old, turning five, and I would cry that I wanted to stay for.
[00:15:18] I never wanted to go grow older, but there's a reason behind it. There's a, there's an innocence in childhood in terms of the ability to look at the world through fresh eyes, not to be bogged down by the cynicism of the world, which I always say as adults, we need to be able to tap back into that innocence of our childhood and to believe again, I believe that so much change happens with children, that the children really are our future.
[00:15:42] There is, it's not just the song. It is very true. And if we can create that culture for our children, we're going to then eventually be able to make a shift in the entire world. I'm not saying that adults cannot change your shift. Of course they can. We are growing individuals. But we'd also people of habit.
[00:15:59] Now, if we [00:16:00] start with our youth and we empower our youth to become kind leaders of tomorrow, that place ethics and character at the forefront of who they are, my goodness, what an amazing world we'll have. Not only that, what amazing innovation we'll have, because the biggest problem is that people don't believe enough in themselves.
[00:16:18] They don't believe that they can achieve maybe because others have bet against them. And the biggest problems that when other people have bet against you, that you can come to believe it yourself. So I believe that inspiring our youth to, to dream big, think small, but dream big, meaning you have to recognize how to break your big dream into small pieces and look at it one piece at a time.
[00:16:37] But if we can empower them to hold two, to hold onto those dreams, to believe that a better world is possible and that they are a part of that, they are yet another piece of the puzzle. We can completely change our future. I remember as a teacher, I'll never forget this. I have many stories like this, but I was telling you in last week, I [00:17:00] think it was where there's sometimes teachers that automatically label a student.
[00:17:04] This is, this is the bully or this is the troublemaker, right? This is the kid that he, he's just going to drive you nuts. And what the problem is that they share it with other teachers in the teacher's room. So now imagine you're a new teacher coming in new year and you have this kid and the teacher will say, Oh, you have him good luck.
[00:17:22] Ooh he's what do you think that teacher's view is going to be now? It's now biased. It's now going to be tainted with this is that kid. And suddenly the relationship, the interaction is going to shift, which is why I don't like to listen to those things. Each person is an individual. And if somebody is acting out, there's a reason why it's our job not to teach the kids that are going to do well regardless, but to be able to see the kids that could fall through the cracks.
[00:17:47] And the reason I see that most, and the reason I give my time to it is because I was one of those kids. I could have fallen through the cracks, in my depression when I was so down. Nobody would have ever judged [00:18:00] me if I completely turned off the path and I turned to drugs or turn to whatever it may be, they will, nobody would judge me for it, from what I was going through.
[00:18:07] And the truth is I wasn't seen my school. Didn't see me. Thank God. I was able, I had, honestly what got me through really the core of it was really faith, but not a lot of people are able to overcome these kinds of it's very hard. I was very close to completely veering off. We can't allow kids to fall through the cracks and it's important to empower them and to remind them.
[00:18:31] And there was this one year that there was a student that was labeled as he is the troublemaker kid. And I had him Adam in my class and he was tough. I'll tell you. He was a tough kid. He, Oh, he tried me. He kept trying to push me. I love my students. I was always very welcoming and he would push me and push me.
[00:18:47] And I just continued to try to embrace him and try to embrace him. And one day as I was in class, I hear screaming going on outside the hole. And so I rush outside and I see it's teacher that did not like him [00:19:00] screaming at him and the principal was there and he was basically on the verge of getting expelled.
[00:19:05] Okay. It was many times that really things it happened. And I went over and I spoke up on his behalf and I, then I took him with me over to the sign and we went into the stairwell and he started crying and he kept he's like, why do you care? It's like, why do you care? I'm so mean to you. I'm so mean to you.
[00:19:24] Why do you care? Just give up already. He was angry that I cared because he didn't trust that people really do care. Now I know what that's like. Cause I was that kid. I didn't trust the people really cared. So I tested them all the time and I looked at him point blank in the eye. And I said so because I see the world and you, I think the world of you and what I see in you is I see me.
[00:19:48] I said, I know what it's like. To feel like everyone has given up on you and to be able to prove it to yourself, time and time again, that nobody cares. I know what it's like to be that I said you [00:20:00] could try to push me. And I told them the story of when I was younger and I said to him, you could push and you could push and you could keep on pushing.
[00:20:08] I said, this is one person who never going to push away said, and hopefully one day, just one day, you'll be able to see yourself through my eyes. And I have to tell you. He made a crazy shift. Definitely in my class, he made a crazy shift in terms of his attitude, in terms of his academics, even in other, even other classes so much and when he graduated, I gave him a letter and I wrote him a letter. I wrote my students all letters for the graduated. And some years later he was graduating. He just had graduated high school and he bumped into me. I had already started the organization at this point and he bumped into me. And that he said, I have to tell you something.
[00:20:50] I said, what goes, I want you to know that letter that you wrote to me is worn out from all the times. They've opened it during high school, because I went into high school. And [00:21:00] really there were a lot of people there that were so super against me, a lot of teachers that were just betting against me, they made it so hard for me.
[00:21:05] And every time I was ready to give up, I opened up your letter and it made me feel like somebody is rooting for me to me. Putting our efforts into our children is the greatest. The single most greatest thing that we can do is the greatest investment because of the returns are greater than anything that you can monetarily invest in.
[00:21:29] You can't even put a price on this. Our youth, our children, they're the most important people in the world. If we're going to allow them to become tainted, become cynical and bitter at a young age, which sometimes it's happening. Then what are, where is our hope? Where is our future? So that is my, that was my promise to myself to make sure that I would see them and be there for them the way I wish somebody would have been there for me.
[00:21:58] Scott Maderer: [00:21:58] Let's turn that around a little [00:22:00] bit, as the adult coming into those sorts of situations, one of the things that I've heard from people is, this. Concern for lack of a better word that if we're kind to others if I'm putting out, the kindness, then I'm worried about people taking advantage of me, and earlier you said, being kind is not being a doormat, but it's related to that idea.
[00:22:24] So how would you answer that worry or that concern?
[00:22:28] Orly Wahba: [00:22:28] It's a very big concern of a lot of people, because a lot of people quantify or basically compare kindness with weakness, and it's not true. Kindness is actually a strength. And like we spoke about in, in past weeks, when you're giving, there's kindness that can come from a place of abundance or from a place of weakness. And it's very important that we tap into that place of abundance. And what do I mean by that? If you feel, if somebody is asking you for something and the requests doesn't feel good for you. [00:23:00] Or the giving of whatever they're asking for is going to make you feel depleted.
[00:23:05] Not because it's not for example, I'm not trying to say if you're in the middle of watching a Netflix series and your mom asks you for a cup of water and you really don't want to do it. Cause you know, you're in the middle of watching and the main things about that and that you shouldn't do it.
[00:23:16] That's not what I'm saying. I'm not talking about laziness. There's a difference. I'm talking about actual depletion that it leaves you feeling empty. You need to be able to say no, now this is not an easy word to learn, especially for givers. I know that from myself, that it's actually very hard for me to say no, and it's something I actually focus on at practice on.
[00:23:37] And when I do say no, and it's not a mean, no, it's no, I'm not helping, I can't do this, but you have to realize that if you're not going to put on your life fast, And if you're going to drown, you're not gonna be able to help anybody else. If you're constantly giving from a place of depletion that you're, that energy is being slipped out of, how are you gonna be able to continue?
[00:23:57] It? It doesn't work that way. So being able to say [00:24:00] no, I'll tell you, I just last, I think it was this past week. Okay. Just this past week. I reached out to a friend of mine and I told her you'd be so proud of me. And I said, I, there was something that was going on that I knew wasn't good for me.
[00:24:13] I knew it. Wasn't good for me. And I know that the person wants this, but I know it's not good for me. And I said no to it, but I did an obviously you could say no in a kind way. And I said, I'm so proud that I stood up for myself, that I did this for myself. Don't forget. You're also a person. So it's not that you're not being kind to somebody you're somebody too, by the way, you're being kind to you, somebody and that's very important.
[00:24:39] Givers tend to fall into this trap of giving to the point of. Resentment. What do I mean by that? You see the danger in giving from a place of weakness from feeling depleted is that eventually those people that get taken advantage of they actually become the world's worst enemy. I know that [00:25:00] sounds pretty crazy.
[00:25:00]They say the greatest villains can also be. The greatest heroes there's that same energy was the same thing with giving. If a person that's constantly giving, but they're never actually receiving, they're never being filled back up with that air of the life vest. They're not being full.
[00:25:15] They're not being filled. They're going to come to resent that same giving resent it. They're going to come to become cynical and bitter and actually hate people for taking advantage of them. Is that how you want to end up. Because you didn't want to give a little bit to yourself because you didn't want to say no because you don't want to stand up for who you are.
[00:25:38] So you have to be very mindful of this. And to remember while kindness fills us, it does. Okay. So it's, there's a lot of sides to this while doing kindness while engaging. I don't want to say doing while engaging in and living kindness fills us. We have to be able to also fill ourselves. We can not only engage in it.
[00:25:59] To [00:26:00] fill a void within ourselves. Meaning if you feel like you're being, you're going above and beyond or overly to sell to somebody, maybe because. You want them to see you in a certain light or you want them to accept? You understand that's not going to happen. You ever notice this is so funny.
[00:26:18] Maybe you remember this from when you were a kid. I remember this when I was a kid. Yeah. There was those kids and the truth is it's adults too. That are like so super giving. Like they're so giving and then everyone's like pushing them away, like keeping them at arms length, you know what I'm talking about?
[00:26:31] And meanwhile, they're thinking, but I'm doing so many good things. I'm trying to be so nice. How come nobody wants to talk to me, but meanwhile, they're doing it from the police of I'm. I'm trying to impress you so that you will think I'm important. Stop trying to have other people think you're important.
[00:26:48] Who cares? What other people think? Do you think you're important because guess what you are because there's no extra people in this world, it's not oops, I created an extra person, sorry. There's no such thing [00:27:00] as that. If you're here and you're breathing. That means that there's a reason that you're here, that no matter what I try and do, I'm never going to be able to accomplish what you can accomplish.
[00:27:09] Scott, no matter what I do, I can be up from morning to night work like a crazy person, but I can't because Scott is a piece of the puzzle. And guess what? So am I, and just like puzzle pieces, we have different shapes, different colors, but every single piece is the same size. No one piece is more important or less important than the other.
[00:27:27] And when even one piece is missing, the likelihood is you're not going to frame that puzzle and hang it proudly on your wall. We all make a difference. So stop trying to get that sense of validation that you matter by giving to others, but giving to them from a negative space, you need to understand your value.
[00:27:42] And I promise you, people will then see it because what that means is you have that sense of confidence. You're not overly giving, like sometimes people like that. We'll put up a red flag. It puts up a red flag for me. I've had it happen. I've had it happen to me, actually through the organization [00:28:00] to be very honest.
[00:28:01] And it's been very hard where there's somebody that is super like super fan, but like to the point, right? They love you. They love you to the most. And I would say, look, I'm just a regular person. Just like you. I make mistakes. Just like everybody else. I'm not perfect. And then what ends up happening is the same amount of how much they loved you.
[00:28:21] They can flip to hate you. I've had this happen. I don't know if you've ever experienced this. It's very painful. It's very painful when it happens, but it always brings up a flag. I'm like, Whoa, why are they thinking that I'm not not some superhero in kindness. I make mistakes. I'm a human being.
[00:28:36]We all do. We all make mistakes. All we could do is learn from them. All week, all I could do is work on myself every day. That's why we're here in this world is our main job in this world. Is not to how much money we make in the bank, but how we work on our character and values.
[00:28:50] That's what I believe is the reason we're here is to perfect our character and our values. And I think that's very important to note because [00:29:00] the lines can become very blurred. Like you said,
[00:29:02]Scott Maderer: [00:29:02] so you can follow orally on Twitter at life vest inside, or find out more about her on our website at life vest, inside.com. She's also active on Facebook under life vest inside, and you can find out more about the kindness, boomerang and the book over at kindness, boomerang.com. And of course I'll have links to all of that over in the show notes.
[00:29:24] Orly. Is there anything else that you'd like to share with the
[00:29:26] Orly Wahba: [00:29:26] listener? I would love to actually share the YouTube channel, which is also out life S inside.com. To me, that is actually our most engaged channel. We're on YouTube. We're also on Instagram, on YouTube. I put out a weekly video called the kindness kickoff with orderly, where I do a reading from my book.
[00:29:41]Once a week and I give everybody a kindness challenge to go out there and do plus that's where you'll be able to hear about the cool video collaborations we have going on. The one that we're up to right now is called a tribute to our elders and we put up all of those videos directly on their channel.
[00:29:56] So you'll see the kindness boomerang on there as well as loads of other [00:30:00] inspirational films that you can use in your own way.
[00:30:01]Scott Maderer: [00:30:01] thanks so much for listening to the inspired stewardship podcast as a subscriber and listener, we challenge you to not just sit back and passively listen, but act on what you've heard and find a way to live your calling. If you enjoy this episode. Please do us a favor. Go over to inspired stewardship.com/itunes rate.
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SNS91: Saturday Night Special – Interview with Julio Maria Muhorro coach and speaker

May 1, 2021 By Scott Leave a Comment

Join us today for the Saturday Night Special with coach and speaker Julio Muhorro...

In this episode Julio Muhorro talks with you about why you can make a dent in the universe...

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In tonight’s Saturday Night Special I ask Julio about his journey from corporate to startups to running his own business. Julio also shares with you his top tips for folks to grow themselves. I also ask Julio to talk with you about how and why we can make a dent in the universe if we really want to.

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SNS91 Saturday Night Special - Interview with Julio Maria Muhorro coach and speaker
[00:00:00] Scott Maderer: [00:00:00] Welcome to tonight's Saturday night, special episode 91.
[00:00:05] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:00:05] I'm Julio Muhorro. And I challenge you to invest in yourself. Invest in others, develop your influence and impact the road by using your time, your talent and your treasures to live out your call it. Having the ability to develop yourself is key. And one way to be inspired to do it's.
[00:00:25] Having the ability to develop yourself is key. And one way to be inspired to do that is to listen to this dying inspired stewdarship podcast with my very good friends, Scott Maderer
[00:00:37]Scott Maderer: [00:00:37] you have to feel honored by different next level. You will be presenting your clients inside the same city to yourself first and foremost. And then when only talking about impact, I always ask my clients what's the need. And what's the change that your client's wants to see.
[00:00:58] Welcome. And thank you for [00:01:00] joining us on the inspired stewardship podcast.
[00:01:03] If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to be, then you must learn to use your time, your talent and your treasures for your true calling in the inspired stewardship podcast. We'll learn to invest in yourself, invest in others and develop your influence so that you can impact the world.
[00:01:24]In tonight Saturday night special. I asked Julio about his journey from corporate to start ups to now running his own business. Julio also shares with you his top tips, if you want to grow yourself. And I also asked Julio to talk with you about how and why we can really make a dent in the universe. If we really want to.
[00:01:46] No one area that a lot of folks need some help with is around the area of productivity. Getting not just more things done, but actually getting the right things done can [00:02:00] be really tough. I've got a course called productivity for your passion. That's designed to help you do this and then to hold you accountable and walk with you so that you can tailor productivity, not just to be getting more done, but actually getting the right things done.
[00:02:20] What's more, we take the approach of looking at your personality and how you actually look at things in the world and tailor the productivity system to your personality. Because the truth is a lot of the systems that are out there are written really well for somebody with a particular personality type.
[00:02:38] But if you have a different approach to things, they just don't work, but there's tools and techniques and approaches that you can take that will work for anyone. And we help you do that and productivity for your passion. Check it out over@inspiredstewardship.com slash launch. Welcome to
[00:02:58] the show Julio.
[00:03:01] [00:03:00] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:03:01] Thank you, Scott. It's a pleasure to be here.
[00:03:02]We just talked a little bit in the intro and a little bit about your journey and how you've moved through different stages in your life. But can you expand a little bit on the journey that you've had from, working in corporate world, working around startups and now running your own business, doing your own thing with coaching and those sorts of things.
[00:03:23] Yeah,
[00:03:24] sure.
[00:03:24] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:03:24] So it really sire where I'm a still university. And I was just, I realized that I was about to graduate. They didn't have a job. And it really there was just the reality. And I was talking with a friend of mine. He wanted to do this technical vocational training program, but he didn't have any background in training.
[00:03:44] He was just good business. My hand, both of my teachers were parents. I grew up surrounded by books. So educated in teaching was natural. So when joined together and there was we, our first business, we had no idea what we were just really tag out. I [00:04:00] remember that I even went to Google, how to do session plans and you know how to do this sort of stuff.
[00:04:05]But it was really cool. It was a great experience. I remember we chained around 200 people in the first three months. We end up having two courses. It was really just going with the flow and learning any decorating was amazing journey. And then I remember it was just when I was about to graduate, I added my internship just to finish my degree.
[00:04:23] And I did that in the largest company, humans and Nick, the exports. Fruits and veggies table all the way to the UK, to South Africa, we like a huge organization. And it was interesting to see how from, having your own startup when you just by events, whatever you went, approve them going to a really big organization where except the structure and yeah.
[00:04:44]Organizational. Processes that you have to follow to get things done. It was super interesting, but then one of the things that really struck me was that I was just not fit to have, sit, do the work and repeat everyday again. [00:05:00] So that to me, off on a journey to just really try to find out something that was meaningful.
[00:05:05] Now, I had no idea what I wanted to do. And I remember I just saw that net speaking about this networking event. And I was like, let me just go out, meet people. I have nothing to lose. This is what I meant that Jen and SIDA are go find their stuff like TLS. So idea that they should, that works as a catalyst ecosystem.
[00:05:24] So they support different ecosystem stakeholders to have a more active role in supporting entrepreneurs. And that's been really good on my experience around, how you can really support somewhat starting to go there, their businesses. It was a chance for me to disclose my own cycle of being an entrepreneur, because now I can see all the mistakes that I've made and I both helping people don't make the same mistakes and something.
[00:05:45] I believe it was two years when I was working with them, that they invited me to eat the launch and management of what ended up being the top tier busy convention program period was a big. And was like, are you a chance? I usually opportunity just to give an idea in [00:06:00] Mozambique before the program, we never really had probation programs active in the country.
[00:06:05] We had a lot of places lend themselves incubators, but they really just work in spaces. Some of them were computers, some of them would know some of the events, but it was not a really structured office nurse. So was the queen of what you need to step into that and launch it and get things ready. Finally I got tons of exposure, international exposure and learn a lot and it was done in 19 that.
[00:06:26] Literally from the outside, my life was looking awesome. I want to international awards. I was stuffing the road. Impacting people, but deep down, I was just feeling empty and tired all the time. I remember this one day I was doing I was a speaker at the global entrepreneurship Congress in Bahrain, in the middle East.
[00:06:46] It's the biggest. For intrepreneurs and I was a member of a panel is there. And then anybody need to do a site talk. And after the talk, this young guy comes to be like, shoot. He was so awesome. I learned so much, I see myself in the majority, this is what I'm going to [00:07:00] do. And I am deep down.
[00:07:03] I was like, Dude, I don't know what I'm doing here, and I went back to my room and I was like, you know what? This is not fair. It's not fair for me. It's not fair for him. It's not fair for anyone that I'm not showing up and playing full out. And then really guided me through a journey of realigning with my purpose and deciding what I wanted to do and how I went into the world.
[00:07:25] I went deeper than I have. Or when you personal development, business design. And that threw me off to create insurance international, my company now where I coach mission-driven entrepreneurs so that they can start earning the income they deserve and making the impact, they desire with integrity. And that's been a whole different journey.
[00:07:43] I couldn't be more happy for what I have right now.
[00:07:47] Scott Maderer: [00:07:47] And how did you know, obviously I think a lot of us immediately, cause you're talking about making that transition into 2019, 2020, of course. The whole, everything changed and everybody's life [00:08:00] change. How did you navigate through 2020 with all of those challenges and changes that came.
[00:08:06] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:08:06] So being honest, one of the things that I wasn't happy about, my nine to five was the need for me to be physically present for things to happen. Everything was offline and in person, and I do enjoy having connections, but that was literally limiting my impact, because I'm only one and I can only be in one place at once.
[00:08:24] So when a grade in my coaching business for me was from the very beginning, I was considering to have an online. Yes. So there was a tiny, it was just. Almost the perfect ear, but then, because I was it's coming from a more offline type of businesses, I remember that I had almost $50,000 secure with clients in Southeast Asia and Europe.
[00:08:45] So it was supposed to jump up there. Do a lot of like trainings, like speaking engagements. And I remember that it was like in a week or so I lost every single contract. It was to like, I will open up by email. It'd be just like show you. I'm so sorry. We have [00:09:00] no idea what you're gonna say back, Julia, we have to postpone it.
[00:09:03] It's canceled. Julia. And I Monday, I was like, you know what, I'm doing this today. I closed off my book. That was like, it's done. I don't know if that ever us tomorrow. I sent my team to just geo and I was just reflecting with myself and about seeing what. I never really wanted to have an offline business again.
[00:09:22]So why am I stressed out over this? You need the universe guided me to what I want. And I just feel bloated from offline and refocusing on the online that I wanted to do. I had to let her let little things, like how to win finals focus back on my social media and I have a additional , but still I had to update it too.
[00:09:40]It's going to go onto the road. But it was amazing. I really cannot complain 2020 was a great year for me.
[00:09:47] Scott Maderer: [00:09:47] Yeah. And I've heard from a lot of, it's interesting because as entrepreneurs, it's all over the place and you work with a lot of entrepreneurs too depending on the nature of their business, what they can do to pivot.
[00:09:57] Yeah. There's businesses that have closed down and then [00:10:00] there's businesses that are doing better than they've ever done before, because it's just, it's different, it's not look at zoom as an example, I don't think at 2019 anyone, zoom was doing okay, but nobody would have predicted what happened to zoom in 2020 from 2019.
[00:10:13] So yeah, a hundred
[00:10:15] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:10:15] percent. It's all about people being able to pay for it. If you hope to type your concept that you have in your business, you'll miss the chance. That's for sure. Yeah.
[00:10:22] Scott Maderer: [00:10:22] And so looking at that, you've worked with a lot of different entrepreneurs. You've seen startups multiple places in the world.
[00:10:29] If you're talking to that small business owner that entrepreneur that maybe they already have a business, maybe they haven't started it yet, but they feel that tug of, boy, I want to, what are some of the top tips or ideas or suggestions mindsets. Whatever it is that you would share with them to begin to grow themselves in that direction.
[00:10:51] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:10:51] Yeah, sure. So something that I've been working on a lot of my clients is that trifecta of income impact, integrity, right? Let's start with integrity, whatever [00:11:00] entrepreneurs it's not necessarily, we do bad things or wrong things, but we are so eager to trade our vision, to trade our passion, to take our principles.
[00:11:10] Just to make ends meet. I was there, I was really just trying to pay my bills when I started my first business. But the thing is, first of all, you have to stay still to your vitamins. You have to say who you are. And most often than not, that means that you will have to put your vision before your ego.
[00:11:28] In other rules, you cannot put your ego before your vision, because the next level of your life, the next level of your business would demand the next level of you. And then you change it and upgrade you right then. So that's the first component on integrity. When it comes down to income and impact, a lot of people think, Oh, I will start doing impact once I have some income.
[00:11:53] You can do both at the same time, you can even start having an impact before making it. It really comes down to how you design your [00:12:00] business, but let's first focus on income, right? As a mission, an entrepreneur, as someone who wants to do good, you have to be willing to receive money and to receive an income for your work.
[00:12:10]There's tons of things around pricing and how you should structure your business, but just understand that you have to feel honored by deputies recreated or the next level of pizza you resenting. Your clients is at the service that you're doing to yourself first and foremost. And then when you're talking about impact, I always ask my clients what's the need.
[00:12:31] And what's the change that your client's wants to see. Even as a coach Scott, we've had the same feeling. Sometimes we see a potential in a client. We see where they can go, but if the client doesn't want that from themselves, don't do it right. Doesn't matter. Yeah. It doesn't matter. We're really focused on what they want and then you can start.
[00:12:51] Brainstorming and working together to realize what can you do in order to make that happen? And once I played with that integrity and income and [00:13:00] impact and making sure that they are coming from a place of alignment, really, it feels like the entire universe conspires in your favor. Like in my case, right when I was like, from the very beginning, I wanted to create an online business.
[00:13:11] And yes, there was a chaotic place right now. Yes. I'm used to play offline, but remember my vision is playing online and yes, I have to integrate and upgrade. Let's go ahead and do it.
[00:13:26] Scott Maderer: [00:13:26] And the irony is that if you put the. If you give up that integrity or that mission or that vision that you have and begin to play it.
[00:13:37] It's the idea of take coaching as an example, I'll work with anyone. That means you work with nobody, as opposed to this is who I really want to help. This is my calling. This is where I'm focused. Now, all of a sudden, the irony is as you identify more clearly who you want to do work with and what you want to do in the world, you actually get more impact.
[00:13:58] Even though, it sounds but [00:14:00] now I'm focusing on a smaller group. I should have less impact. It's no, that's the, you're in a catch 22, but that's how it works
[00:14:06]Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:14:06] hundred percent. And I don't think it feels country duty because you initially down. But it's, we're super productive.
[00:14:11] So it's, it feels like you are initially done it that's wrong, but it's not because once you're doing it to make it easier on yourself to really just do Ableton, your business marketing becomes easier because you're talking to a specific person that specific need. You doing your business becomes easier because we're working with people that you love.
[00:14:29] So you come in and work, we log into what would your plan instead of sending that? So we've been with those three things and, asking yourself, for this level of income, because even in terms of impact and what does it mean to develop integrity and again, not necessarily about doing the wrong things but more around your vision and your mission.
[00:14:44] Now you want your legacy to look like in this world,
[00:14:48] Scott Maderer: [00:14:48] So if someone hears from you that, they hear you talking about this mission and your mission and they're resonating with this and they're like, okay, I want to, I've got some tug myself. I've got some feeling myself. I want to go out there [00:15:00] and make an impact, do something important.
[00:15:03] Whatever that means to them. Let's take it that direction. Let's look more closely at impact. What are some of the principles that they need to focus on or learn, or how does that kind of tie together?
[00:15:16] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:15:16] So give us a shocker. When I realized that a lot of people think that, Oh, we have to give, if you want to receive.
[00:15:22] That's the, one of the biggest BSS part. We all know people who are takers, indigenous take, and they have a lot, meaning that they are capable of receiving people who they give everything and then they can barely make ends meet on their end. So my challenge to you as it isn't is that think about taking, giving and receiving as completely independent things.
[00:15:48] You can take period. You can receive period. You can give period. And the video, if you, I mentioned even entrepreneur, as if it's talking about, you went to the first impact [00:16:00] and that's true for you too, to think I have so much, let me give. I've taken this because it's actually mine.
[00:16:06] It's my right to have this. How can I help others to have more as well? So really think about the street component staking even. Yeah, I receive it and it's independent. And once you have that, you will start realizing that you are not limiting yourself anymore. So an example that happened with me, one of my first the first thing that I got.
[00:16:24] It was completely quote unquote random. He just saw me on social media. He reached out, I designed the entire program for him and he was like what's your price? I had no idea my pricing. I did something around $10,000 for a whole year. Of course, my player, first blank guy. So I put first, and then in the end of the year, this was October.
[00:16:43] Last year he paid me $20,000 and I was like, dude would, did be like, be up on that. And I was like but I deserve it. And I remember, Nope. I will see to my own voice. Say Julie let's receive it. And I did just receive, but it's yours. And [00:17:00] then you can decide what, when I do it with the money.
[00:17:01]So we allow ourselves to receive, you don't have to earn your money. If you showed that you play for that, it's yours, it's your right. Take it. But also you don't need to have a lot. We need to start giving back. That's the second layer of the question where I developed this framework called the treaties, where you start to decide Which team you are given because something that you also think is Oh, you have to give in order to receive because you need to make mistakes.
[00:17:27] Here's the thing. If you're a closet, have a space for 20 shirts and someone offer you additional shorts. We don't return the shorts. You get a bigger closet, right? This is the meter. It's only the short. So make sure that you would help greet in space to receive. And the thing is funny enough in our brains as we give new perceive.
[00:17:48] But I see a lot of people say I don't have money. Let me give the little money I have so that I can have make room for more. No, why we'll do it? Your brain will be black. You are well, you don't have money. You cannot make ends meet why giving your [00:18:00] money away. So a nice late for picking your brain is going okay.
[00:18:03] I don't have enough treasure to give. But I can have, I have enough time to give, so maybe you don't donate to add charity, but then you do free work. You volunteer your time for a charity, but it can be like, I'm already so busy. Then you can give your talent. That's the 30th and your talent is this specialized work that, someone just don't wake up with the times that you have, and you can decide to do that.
[00:18:28] And the beauty of that is that you're teaching your brain. You're teaching yourself that you can give. And because you can only give what you have. You're already feeling what abundance and therefore opening up more space to receive more. Does that make sense? But yeah.
[00:18:43] Scott Maderer: [00:18:43] Yeah. As another words, it don't limit your giving to just the dollars you have or even the time you have, or even the talents you have, but think about.
[00:18:54] It more abundantly to create space and recognize that it's not that [00:19:00] at another words, it's not like the universe is a cosmic vending machine so that when I put a quarter out, I get a quarter back or I get whatever I want back it's, those are independent. But at the same time, as you give more and find ways to create that space, You recognize more abundance, you're more able to receive.
[00:19:21] So it, they are they're related, but not in a give and take way in a, but it's more around the mindset and the heart. Is that kind of what you're saying?
[00:19:29] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:19:29] Yeah, a hundred percent fully around the mind and how you perceive those seats and the value. And it will be something like, someone is your grandma is struggling to manage your furniture, sit down with her and help out a few minutes, but really from a place that you genuinely love giving it, doesn't have to feel like a harder, should not feel like an obligation, because if you start to think, when we give it's actually one of the most selfish acts, we can.
[00:19:53] Engage with it because they are giving because we want to feel good because we want to. That a person that never [00:20:00] really asked for our help in the first place. So really understanding that and understanding it also I don't know if you heard the story about the black, the butterfly, where if you have a butterfly come out with it, you are literally condensing it to live in with that fine for life because the wings will be too weak.
[00:20:15] You wouldn't be able to fly and all that stuff. So they're trying to help us support people is important to also realize that. It's not about us. It's about the other person and you making sure you are keeping a way to enable the person to grow and not to creep up that growth.
[00:20:33] Scott Maderer: [00:20:33] So as we kind of shift gears here I'm going to ask what I always jokingly tell people are the easy questions.
[00:20:39]I'd say if we invented a machine and I could pick you up and I could take you into the future a hundred to 150 years, and you were able to look back on your life. What's the impact that you hope you've had on the world?
[00:20:55] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:20:55] It's such a beautiful question, but the impact that I know I'm having in the [00:21:00] road as we speak, and it's, I'm getting amplified and growing every day that people will see me and what I do as a first few recognition.
[00:21:11] People cannot stay in my field and be in the same. They feel challenged to play full out. They feel challenged to separate the next level. They feel challenged to really harness their power. And from that place, being able to create that they want. And from that place, being able to share that power with others.
[00:21:30] Because in end of the day, your power cannot be given or taken it's yours. You can only forget, but also you can remember your power and magic stuff starts to happen when you acknowledge your power and we own it. And we really site leading our lives the way we want to live.
[00:21:50] Scott Maderer: [00:21:50] So what's coming next on this journey as you're, obviously you're still continuing to grow and pivot, and I'm sure the business is changing and continuing to evolve as well as you as a [00:22:00] person.
[00:22:00] So what are the, some of the things that you have coming up on this journey as you're living out your call?
[00:22:06] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:22:06] Sure. So for the last year. And so I've been pretty focused on supporting entrepreneurs one on one. And now I'm transitioning more into also engaging more with corporates and blood for organizations and really playing the power game, influence the people in positions of power ends up making decision that affects the life of everyone else.
[00:22:26]So we, that's why we are moving forward, making sure that original power I first and foremost, their language, their own power. And that are aware of what's happening in the front lines and therefore being able to make a decisions that it part other people deliberate our lives. So really, but we are going for the next few years,
[00:22:44] Scott Maderer: [00:22:44] you can follow Julio on Twitter is Julio
[00:22:48] He's also on Instagram with the same name as well as LinkedIn. And you can find out more about Julio, his coaching over at link tree, spelled L I N K T R [00:23:00] dot E. Slash Julio Mojarro of course I'll have links to all of this over in the show notes as well, too. Leo, is there anything else you'd like to share with the listener today?
[00:23:10] Julio Maria Muhorro: [00:23:10] Just that remember that you pass up your measure and that if you are giving you forgiven officially, you give it. Something to live for it's because you are the person to drive back, but the universe life, God force you to do it. You have to be willing to come into what can change the world. You can do this.
[00:23:30]Scott Maderer: [00:23:30] Thanks so much for listening to the inspired stewardship podcast, as a subscriber and listener, we challenge you to not just sit back and passively. Listen. But act on what you've heard and find a way to live your calling. If you enjoy this episode please do us a favor. Go over to inspired stewardship.com/itunes rate.
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Episode 856: Invest in Yourself – Interview with Orly Wahba – Part 1

April 26, 2021 By Scott Leave a Comment

Join us today for Part 1 of the Interview with Orly Wahba creator of The Kindness Boomerang...

This is Part 1 of the interview I had with speaker, author, and kindness expert Orly Wahba.

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In today’s interview with Orly Wahba author of the Kindness Boomerang, I ask Orly to share her journey overcoming adversity and how it affected her life journey. I also ask Orly to share the message of her book and video the Kindness Boomerang. Orly and I also share how you can take powerful steps to be more kind to others, and yourself.

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Episode 856 Invest in Yourself - Interview with Orly Wahba â€“ Part 1
[00:00:00] Scott Maderer: [00:00:00] Thanks for joining us on episode 856 of the inspired stewardship podcast.
[00:00:07] Orly Wahba: [00:00:07] I'm Orly Wahba. I challenge you to invest in yourself, invest in others, develop your influence and impact the world by using your time, your talent and your treasures to live out. Your calling focus on kindness is a key and one way to be inspired to do that is to listen to this.
[00:00:24] The inspired stewardship podcast with my friend, Scott Maderer.
[00:00:29]it's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard in my life is that really where value is placed at it's so fake and it's such a facade, but when you're engaging in an act of kindness in that moment, you realize I didn't need to be the fastest or the smartest or the most popular or the wealthiest to make a difference.
[00:00:48] You know what I have to be. I just have to be me.
[00:00:51] Scott Maderer: [00:00:51] Welcome. And thank you for joining us on the inspired stewardship podcasts. If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to [00:01:00] be, then you must learn to use your time, your talent and your treasures for your true calling in the inspired stewardship podcast, you will learn to invest in yourself, invest in others and develop your influence.
[00:01:13] So that you can impact the world
[00:01:17]in today's interview with Orly Wahba Arthur of the kindness, boomerang, I ask orally to share her journey overcoming adversity and how it affected her life journey. I also ask orally to share the message of our book and video, the kindness boomerang in early. And I also talk about and share with you how you can take powerful steps to be more kind to others and more kind to yourself.
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[00:02:32] Orly Wahba is the founder of the global nonprofit life vest inside a kindness expert, an educator, a best-selling author and entrepreneur, and a keynote speaker who inspires audiences to take action. Her talks and workshops provide the groundwork for lasting change and motivate people to become the best versions of themselves so that they can influence the world for good.
[00:02:57] Orally is also the Arthur of [00:03:00] and created the viral video, the kindness, boomerang drawing from her personal journey, groundbreaking science and her signature wit orally inspires people to tap into the power of kindness, the most underutilized skill in today's world through her talk, Orly demonstrates how kindness and a simple shift in perspective can alter the way a person connects with themselves and connects with the world around them.
[00:03:26] Welcome to the show. Orly.
[00:03:29] Orly Wahba: [00:03:29] Thank you so much, Scott, for having me. I'm really honored to be here.
[00:03:33] Scott Maderer: [00:03:33] It's awesome to have you here and. One of the things that I've looked up, I've talked to you a little bit and we've looked at, and I've seen some of your information online as well is a little bit about your own personal journey and kind of the adversity that you've overcome.
[00:03:49] Could you share a little bit more about that journey and how that's actually helped you develop your own sense of self value and self worth?
[00:03:59] Orly Wahba: [00:03:59] That's a [00:04:00] really great question. The truth is my journey begins a long time ago. It begins when I was just four years old, four year old kid that dreamed of changing the world.
[00:04:09] Now I have to tell you when you're four years old and talking about changing the world, people look at you like you're nuts. And when you're at the,
[00:04:18] Scott Maderer: [00:04:18] they
[00:04:18] Orly Wahba: [00:04:18] still they look at me even more nuts right now. But as a young kid and I really have to attest a lot of this to my dad. I love him very much for it.
[00:04:26] My dad is always a big dreamer, always bleeding that anything is possible. And every night before he would talk me into bed, he would empower me to know that there's nothing I can't do. And from a young age, seeing what was happening in the world, looking at the world and feeling pain of the world, honestly, that's something that I remember is my earliest memories, not understanding where animosity comes from.
[00:04:50] White exists, the divide between people of different races or religions or ethnicities. And I felt from a young age that I was meant to do something, to [00:05:00] bring people together in this world. And I didn't know how, and I didn't know what, but what I did know was I knew my why. And this was a very big part of my story.
[00:05:10] I remember as a kid sneaking into my brother's room and listening to the song, heal the world by Michael Jackson, one of my all time favorites. And of course as brothers sent to do, they used to make fun of me say, Oh yeah, early. Sure. Are you going to heal the world? So it was very often called naive and as a kid growing up, I had certain insecurities, just like all kids do.
[00:05:31] First off school was very difficult for me. Learning was very difficult for me. And when you're not good at something you generally don't like doing it. And when my third grade year, I was eight years old on there. I forget it. I was taken out of my class with all of my friends and put into a resource room, a much smaller group of kids, because it was hard for me to learn.
[00:05:52] And kids as they are, again, they're not mean they're not evil, but they would poke fun of me about it. And it really did get to me. Oh, you're so slow. You [00:06:00] can't learn fast. And I felt so self-conscious being there, but the truth is I'm very big believer and you'll get to hear more of this. I believe that everything happens for a reason.
[00:06:09] We don't always see it right away. Oftentimes we may never see it, but everything happens for a reason. And in my third grade year, the resource room teacher. Came in one day to class and she gave us a poem and she said, I want you to take this poem and I want you to decorate it. So I was eight years. I took it, I put it on a piece of pink construction paper, put some sparkles on it and stuff.
[00:06:32] But I also, I read it, not just once or twice, but 10 times, 50 times, a hundred times. Words of that poem have gotten me through many difficult points in my life times when I felt like I just wanted to give up. And it's a poem by Walter D Wintle. And I remember it till this day. Not because I've read it time and time again now.
[00:06:53] But I remember it from when I was eight years old and it goes as follows. It says, if you think you can't do it, [00:07:00] you can't, if you think you dare not, you don't, if you'd like to win, but you can't, it's almost a sense you won't, if you think you'll lose, you're lost for out in this world, we find success begins with the fellows.
[00:07:14] Will. It's all in a state of mind, life's battles. Don't always go to the stronger, faster man for sooner or later, the man who wins is the one who thinks he can, the one who thinks he can. And this, the words of this poem really spoke to me. And I have to give credit to a fourth grade teacher of mine who was passed at this point, who saw something in me that I didn't yet see in myself and pushed me to different levels that suddenly everything just clicked and learning just clicked in my mind.
[00:07:43] And I started moving up in my grade level. And I started building my sense of confidence and went into middle school. And middle school is a really tough time as it is, very tough time. I'm sure you remember your middle school years.
[00:07:55] Scott Maderer: [00:07:55] I taught middle school for 11
[00:07:57] Orly Wahba: [00:07:57] years. So I was a teacher.
[00:07:59] I taught middle school for [00:08:00] seven years, so all boy and I was in teaching a teacher in the same school where I was a student. So it brought back all those memories. And in my, the beginning of my seventh grade year, Imagine you leave sixth grade, you have your group of friends, you feeling really secure where you think you're feeling secure.
[00:08:15] You come in first, the seventh grade and every one of my friends just completely turned on me. It was like, you can't sit here with us at lunch. You call your friends to make plans on the weekend. Everybody's telling you they're doing something different. You end up finding out they're all hanging out together and just laughing at you behind your back.
[00:08:33] I felt so at a place in school so much so that. I would go to the nurse's office almost every day. I'd actually, they don't want to be there. I didn't feel like I belonged. And those feelings of insecurity, they followed me and they followed me into high school and high school, as it is a tough time.
[00:08:53] You're trying to figure out who you are amidst, what everybody's telling you. You should be. [00:09:00] At this point. I was so super shy. I was the kid that wouldn't even raise their hand in class shy. I always loved people always. I was the kind of kid, if you and I, if even if we didn't hang in the same crew and you're absent from school, I would be the one, copying notes for you, bring it to the next day.
[00:09:17] So I always loved people, but I was super insecure, super shy and wanting in a sense to feel accepted. And in my sophomore year of high school, probably one of the greatest things happen to me. That was also probably one of the greatest tragedies. And I know that sounds weird. How could somebody thing that's so horrible and terrible and the being, the reason why you're here and very often I find that sometimes when we are at our lowest, we're also at our highest potential we're being pushed.
[00:09:50] And it's how we respond. In the beginning of my sophomore year, we had a fire in my house and overnight my family lost everything. [00:10:00] Everything. We were okay, physically. So I have to say, thank God for that. I'm one of five siblings, so we were physically okay. But it does something to you when you're home, that places, your like safety net that you've run to when things aren't going well on the outside is suddenly gone.
[00:10:16] And all of your memories, your baby pictures your home videos, the proof that you exist, especially that age gun, and it felt. So alone, but the thing that hurt seeing my parents break down did something to me that I can't really explain. And when I saw them crying and they didn't know, I saw them, it shifted something in me and I didn't want to be a burden on them.
[00:10:42] And so I kept my emotions hidden from them. My friends didn't know what to say to me. They're going through their own stuff. So I had to hide my emotions from them. And I was a very positive person. So I came into school even the next day after the fire and I was making a joke about it. Yeah.
[00:10:54] Guys, my house burned down and I was making it like I was completely okay. Everything was [00:11:00] just as it was, but you can only put on that facade for so long. And one night I went to bed and I sorta just didn't wake up the next day. I fell into a state of really dark depression. And when I say dark, suicidal, dark.
[00:11:18] I was angry at the whole world. I was angry at my family, my friends, I was angry at God. I was angry at myself. I was just so angry. I never felt more lonely than ever, but the thing that hurt more than anything, it wasn't actually the fire. I was home from school for several months. And during that time, not one person.
[00:11:37] And now one person came to visit, not one person called to see if I was okay. And that made me feel like if I wasn't here tomorrow, would it make a difference? Anybody? Would anybody even notice, would anybody even care? And it felt like the answer was no. So I felt so invisible and I just wanted the pain to end and after, so I was forced to go back to school, but it wasn't that same kid.
[00:12:00] [00:12:00] I was that kid in the corner just dressed all in black. I didn't want to talk to anybody. I didn't care about my grades at that point. I was in the honor class and I didn't care about anything. I let everything fall. And one not so very special morning as I was getting ready to go to school, I was in the bathroom and I was looking at myself in the mirror.
[00:12:19] I always say something happens when you actually really stare and look at yourself in the mirror. I was looking at myself and the scariest thing happened for me. I didn't see me. I didn't see that four year old happy-go-lucky kid that dreamed of changing the world. And that believed that she could, I didn't see her looking back at me and that scared me.
[00:12:40] I saw shell of a person. And I said, I have no idea how I'm going to pick myself back up, not a clue, but I said, I can't let this be my end. And it was in that moment at 15 years old in the bathroom that I made a promise to myself. And to be honest, it's a promise that guided me to my seven amazing years of teaching.
[00:12:59] That [00:13:00] guided me to the nonprofit work I do with life S inside with kindness. And that honestly wakes me up every morning. And it's a promise to be there for people. The way, I just wished somebody would have been there for me and to see people the way I wish somebody would have just seen me because at the end of the day, isn't that what we all want.
[00:13:18] We just want to feel like we're seen we're heard like the fact that we're here, we make a difference in this world. And those next couple of years of high school, I was walking alone, which is not easy. I don't mind. I don't know if you remember back in high school days is sometimes hard to even walk across the lunch room alone.
[00:13:32] You know what I'm talking about? I also
[00:13:33] Scott Maderer: [00:13:33] taught high school, so not only my own years, I remember seeing it. The difference between what you remember about high school as an adult, looking back and being an adult. In a high school, I observed the way kids interact with each other as well,
[00:13:49] Orly Wahba: [00:13:49] a hundred percent see a different level, a completely different level.
[00:13:53] And so there was just walking alone, but it gave me the greatest opportunity in the world. It gave me an opportunity to do something we don't really get [00:14:00] to do as adults gave me the chance. To fall in love with me, for me, not because I was trying to impress that guy to the other one, or I was trying to be included in this group.
[00:14:08] I got a chance to actually fall in love with me, for me. And what I found is I actually found my voice. And in my senior year of high school, when we were on a seminar with all my grade, we were in a circle and the teacher, the facilitator was talking about obstacles. And so this shy or lead did something she never did before I raised my hand.
[00:14:29] And I had something to contribute. The crazy part is these kids that I used to be so super intimidated from were listening to me and then coming to me afterwards and giving me advice and asking me for advice. And what I found is that the more I gave, the more I started to heal and the more I gave, the more, a heel that I became just obsessed in love with this concept and this idea of giving.
[00:14:53] Now I've always been a giving person. But what I learned in that moment is that there are two types of giving. [00:15:00] One is very positive and one actually can be really negative and dangerous. And I know it sounds weird, right? How could giving be dangerous? But what I realized is that there's giving from a place of strength and there's giving from a place of weakness.
[00:15:13] So giving a place of strength to me comes from a sense of abundance, right? You recognize your value. Therefore, you can see the value in others you're giving, and there's no end to how much you can give, because you understand your inherent value, like a candle that can light many candles and still retain its flame.
[00:15:31] However, giving from weakness feels like sacrifice. It leaves you feeling depleted. Have you ever done something, but you end up feeling depleted as a result of it. That's giving from weakness. Now, giving from weakness does not mean your giving is fake. People get from weakness for different reasons.
[00:15:46] Maybe they want to be accepted by somebody. Maybe they're trying to impress someone. Maybe they're trying to fill a void within themselves. Maybe it's coming from a place of guilt, but these are all things that are not giving from the positive sense. And I always say that if [00:16:00] giving starts to feel like a sacrifice, stop giving to everyone else and turn the giving on yourself because the honest truth is that until you actually acknowledge and recognize your value, your inherent value.
[00:16:12] Just for you being who you are just for you being here. No one is going to be able to see it. And that's what I learned. I came to love me. And what I realized is that because I loved the me, others were able to actually love me prior to that, I was seeking the approval of others. I was trying to fill a void.
[00:16:31] When really the only person that could fill the void, it's not being accepted by, that popular kid or that group. It's actually me accepting myself in, regardless of my flaws in regardless of the mistakes I've made, actually understanding that there is inherent value in an individual.
[00:16:46] And it's for this exact reason that I decided to go on a path on this path, it was that promise. And it's why I went to go ahead and teach him in middle school. To be able to help my students see the beauty in themselves so that they [00:17:00] can begin to see it in others to help them see that we all have insecurities, whether you're the most popular kid in the class or the
[00:17:07] Scott Maderer: [00:17:07] loners, the most popular kid in
[00:17:09] Orly Wahba: [00:17:09] the class.
[00:17:11] Yeah, exactly.
[00:17:12] Scott Maderer: [00:17:12] It's true. Again, that's as an adult walking into a high school or a middle school, you often can see the level of insecurity that. To a kid you're blind to it, to it, to a kid, you see the other kid is the self-assured kid, they've got it all together. My son's a 17 year old right now, getting ready to graduate from high school.
[00:17:32] And, he's convinced that everyone else in his high school has their entire life figured out. And he's the only one that doesn't know. And I'm like, Dude, nobody else knows no one.
[00:17:41] Orly Wahba: [00:17:41] And by the way, and even when they get older, they still have no clue. It's like figuring it out hundred percent, but it's very true.
[00:17:49] That sense of feeling like you're alone, the sense of you feeling like I'm the only one in this, that's the worst feeling. But at the end of the day, I always say, yes, Every person, even the most [00:18:00] together person that you might look at as you're like a social media influencer, or, a celebrity that everybody's got insecurities.
[00:18:07] And if they tell you otherwise, they're just flat out lying to you, we all do.
[00:18:12] Scott Maderer: [00:18:12] Yeah. So let's fast forward a little bit. You've got a book out now on kindness. And then you had a video that before the book, went viral. It was, I know I've seen it online. Some of our listeners may have as well.
[00:18:26] Why is it that kindness became the message that you begin to emphasize, as you move forward out of those insecurities and into your own. Self-worth why kindness?
[00:18:37]Orly Wahba: [00:18:37] Great question. So I'll tell you, I want to give you an example here to take a look at so many of the social issues going on in today's world, right?
[00:18:46] Whether it's bullying or depression or violence, or drugs. So many people or entities approach these issues from the anti approach, [00:19:00] right? Everyone's so much anti bullying. You depression, anti-depression war anti-war drugs. Anti-drugs utilizing negativity to fight against something negative.
[00:19:10] Thinking that's going to be the solution where actually it only perpetuates the problem, right? It's a complete misunderstanding of why the problem actually exists to begin with. And the thing is we forget to ask the question of why and when we continue to ask the question of why. We find the real answer.
[00:19:29] I always tell people, I said, imagine there is a jagged metal pole sticking out of a wall and it's all rusty and it's cut. And you're in a small narrow corridor and people everyday walking by this pole and they keep cutting their leg. And on the other side of the polls, the guy putting band-aids band-aids and Neosporin get rid of the guy with the bandage, just cut the pole off of the wall.
[00:19:51] The thing is, as you and being, sometimes we tend to react. Once we see that there's an issues of posts on there saying why does it exist? [00:20:00] Why does this exist? And when we continue to ask the question of why with all of these situations, what we find is that it stems from a lack of self-value and self-worth people not recognizing that, who they are matters, that they make a difference that they're unique, insignificant, and that even though they might be one in 7 billion or 8 billion people in the world, the number that matters the most is that they're one.
[00:20:23] And why kindness kindness is in my end game. My end game is empowerment. My end game is people walking around in this world, recognizing that when they look at themselves in the mirror, that the person looking back at them is awesome and has something to contribute because there is a very big difference between arrogance and confidence.
[00:20:39] They completely opposed. They sometimes look the same. They couldn't be more further away from each other, a person that has confidence. By nature recognizes their value. Theirs therefore sees the value in others. That's why a person is confident. People always feel like why they loved by that person. They feel [00:21:00] welcomed a presence.
[00:21:01] That's arrogant. People are fearful of that person. That's the best litmus test. I always say, what does that mean? So they have an insecurity within them and therefore they're imposing these feelings or emotions or whatever it may be. In order to lift themselves up or fill that void. And people are fearful of those people.
[00:21:18] Confidence, everybody feels loved by those people. And so how do we approach this? How has kindness the tool think about this for a minute? Think about an act of kindness that you've done today. And the likelihood is you've done several. Okay. Because really kindness are the small things. They're not these larger than life things.
[00:21:36]We don't have to volunteer at a soup kitchen to be kind, you know what I'm saying can be many people that could go volunteer at a soup kitchen. They walk out and they give somebody a stair, like a look up and down. They completely destroyed the guy. Is that guy considered to be a kind person because kindness, unfortunately, people look at it as an action item.
[00:21:52] It is not an action item. It's not an item on the to-do list. It's not Oh yes, I do kindness on Mondays and Fridays four to [00:22:00] five. I'm sorry. My schedule is full this week after make an appointment the next week I'm booked for the next year. No. It's the way in which we look at the world, but he begins with the way in which we look at ourselves.
[00:22:10] And so why kindness, because when you engage in an act of kindness, how do you feel? You feel awesome. You feel worthy, you feel amazing. There's scientific evidence behind this, that when engaging in acts of kindness, not only do you increase your endorphins and your oxytocin, new, lower, your cortisol levels, the stress hormone, it brings a tremendous amount of positive feelings.
[00:22:33] But even besides that, why? Because when you're engaged in an act of kindness or an act of giving, and that moment of giving to somebody. You're being validated for the right reasons, as opposed to what society tells us should validate us. It's not about how much money we have in our bank or my friends we have and how many followers we have.
[00:22:51] And if you liked our Instagram picture, these fake numbers that are this facade that we all create, and we put so much value to them. So much [00:23:00] so that people spend loads of money to buy followers. And it was the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard. It's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard in my life is that really where value is placed, that it's so fake and it's such a facade, but when you're engaging in an act of kindness in that moment, you realize I didn't need to be the fastest or the smartest or the most popular or the, to make a difference.
[00:23:24] You know what I had to be, I just had to be me. I just had to make somebody smile at, to say a few words at, to help somebody pick something up. I had to just give somebody an embrace. I had to just be a listening ear. You just have to be you. That is the power of kindness. Kindness is the greatest and most powerful tool to empower a human being, to understand and recognize their value.
[00:23:48] And if we can do that, we're going to increase kindness in the world because. Again, if I don't understand my value, and if I don't think I'm a piece of this puzzle of life, am I going to look at you and [00:24:00] see your value? I'm not going to think that my choices matter, that my words matter, that my actions matter, because I don't even think I matter.
[00:24:06] So I'm going to say bad words too. I'm going to curse you out. I'm going to say something mean why? Cause it doesn't matter. Cause I don't matter. But if I understand that I matter inherently, then I recognize that my choices matter. Because not only will my choices dictate the life I lead. They will also dictate the lives of those who choose to follow me.
[00:24:27] And so we are much more responsible. That is the power of kindness. It is the tool to give us to, in a sense, figuring out that bottom core reason of why to prevent the issues from ever coming into existence.
[00:24:42] Scott Maderer: [00:24:42] So let's get practical for a minute. Someone's listening right now and they're hearing all of this and they're like, okay, I got it.
[00:24:48]I need to be more kind. I need to work kindness into my life, but you just said, that's also not a task oriented. It's not going to put it on my checklist and I'm going to on Thursday, I'm going to be [00:25:00] kind, how do we actually begin to grow our own kindness? If we were going to take one step today, what's the step.
[00:25:09] Orly Wahba: [00:25:09] So it's like I said, it has to begin with you. I know that sounds crazy, it sounds counter-intuitive. What do you mean though? Like kindness is for other people. We understand it that way, but really it must begin. It has to be able to begin with ourselves. It's could be as something as simple as gratitude.
[00:25:25] What do I mean by gratitude? Number one, you have to be able to look at that person at, in the mirror every single day. And begin to work on actually loving yourself, which is not an easy thing, because we tend to see our flaws. We tend to be the most self-critical right. Where we say said to tend to see what's lacking gratitude is a great way to help grow kindness.
[00:25:44] Why? Even if you, for example, if you said to yourself, okay. Each day when I wake up. Okay. Whether you write it down or whether you just say it when you wake up, the first thing that you say. If you're able to say three things and you choose the number for you, don't take my [00:26:00] word for it. You choose what's good for you.
[00:26:02] Three things that you're grateful for right away. You're going to be able to start seeing shifts because everything has to do with our mindset. We have to be able to believe that we are abundance. We have abundance. Therefore, when we're giving it's coming from a place of abundance, so actually, even though it seems like it could be, counter-intuitive the greatest way to begin a practice of kindness in your life is actually being grateful for what you have in your life.
[00:26:26] Sure. Actually coming to, to love yourself. Now you see the perfect example of this and the name of the organization is life vest inside. And if you think about a life vest for a moment, right? What happens when you're on an airplane and they tell you a, in case of an emergency and we're going down, who do they say that you should put the life vest on first?
[00:26:44] You are the kids sitting next to you? You sounds very unkind and cruel. Now they, Oh, you put on your own and then help the kid. They understand something very important. If you're going to drowned, you're not going to be able to help anybody else. You're not going to be able to, but [00:27:00] there's another part to it.
[00:27:01] And you can incorporate both parts. One is giving to yourself. You have to be able to give to yourself in terms of recognizing, acknowledging the things that you have, whether it even be doing something for yourself on a weekly basis. That is for you. I know it seems counter-intuitive, but it's very important.
[00:27:16] Then when you're going to give, you're going to feel like you're giving more from this place of abundance. Start engaging in these small acts. I'm not saying you shouldn't put it as a checklist item. The best way is even something simple as a smile, as a few kind words, recognizing, becoming aware because kindness is all about awareness.
[00:27:38]If I told you and I have these things called acts of kindness cards, okay. These are amazing. I did. I started these with my students and we have them till today on each card, it has a different act of kindness. We have them in decks of 25 cards. Every card has a different act of kindness and ideas.
[00:27:55] You take that card, you hold onto it. And when you have the opportunity to perform the act, you [00:28:00] then pass the car to somebody else, not the guy who did it for why are they important? So I can tell you small story. It was in my class one day I was giving out these cards and one of the kids got a card that said, hold a door open for someone.
[00:28:14] The next day comes into class early. You're not going to believe what happens. Craziest thing happened yesterday. I said what happened? He says the second after you gave me that card, the whole day everywhere I was walking, I saw doors that needed to be opened. There was a door and there was a door and I started laughing and I said, yeah, those doors were always there because your awareness has been increased.
[00:28:34] You now have the ability to take advantage of these opportunities, which is really why I wrote that book. Kindness, boomerang, it's a 365 page. A book one page for every day of the year. And it's meant to simply increase your awareness because if you ask anybody in this world, Scott, imagine it's going to, are you kind, do you think anybody's going to say no kindness?
[00:28:54] That's not for me. No, thank you.
[00:28:56] Scott Maderer: [00:28:56] I bet. 90 plus percent would immediately go. Oh, of
[00:28:58] Orly Wahba: [00:28:58] course, [00:29:00] of course nine, because kindness is very broad. So when you bring it in and you give, and you have these specific actions, small things that you don't even recognize that actually happened in your day. Your awareness has increased.
[00:29:12] You're actually exercising a very important muscle that we forget to exercise sometimes. And that's our eye muscle. Our eye is a muscle. We have to exercise it, to see the opportunities, to engage and to see the goodness in the world. Because unfortunately we're living in a world where media is constantly showing us negativity, because unfortunately as human beings, we're built in a way that negativity sells, what are we going to do?
[00:29:34] What are you going to do? If it bleeds, it leads. And so what happens if everybody's telling you the world is garbage and everybody's terrible, what do you start to see? You start to see the world is garbage and everybody's terrible, but really there's so much good happening in the world. The problem is that we're looking at the world through the wrong lens.
[00:29:53] We have to put on our glasses. It's we've lost our vision. And we need to put on that, that those lenses to start [00:30:00] seeing the good. And once you do so much more comes into your field of vision. So many more positive things come into your field of vision because as human beings, we're magnets and we draw to ourselves.
[00:30:12] The energy that we put out there. If you had a bet, if you had, if your day started off bad, you woke up late. You stepped in a puddle, you got to late. So to work late, your boss screamed at you. You're like, Oh my God, it's only 9:00 AM. And this is the worst day it's going to be. It's going to be one of those days, right?
[00:30:28] We say, Oh, that's going to be one of them those days. What happens if he comes one of those days, you draw it, add energy to you. So I'm not saying it's easy, cause it's not easy to break that cycle. But again, it's the muscle and it's about seeing those opportunities and then being able to take advantage of them.
[00:30:46]Scott Maderer: [00:30:46] And so I'll actually give you a a personal example. So when I was a school teacher, I was in the science fair and I continue I, for years and years, I volunteered for the state science fair. They recently moved it to another city, so it's no [00:31:00] longer I can't volunteer anymore cause it's eight hours away.
[00:31:03]But I did it for 10 years. I was, one of the key volunteers. And it was always funny to me because I would see all of these news articles even after I was a teacher, I hear people, Oh, the youth of today. Oh. Nobody, all the kids today. And I'm going to the science fairs and hanging around with 800, a thousand kids who are some of the smartest, brightest, most polite, doing incredible things.
[00:31:29]One of them invented a new kind of wheelchair. It's available today, I've seen it today and this incredible work and you're like wait a minute.
[00:31:42] Orly Wahba: [00:31:42] Am I looking at the wrong? What's going
[00:31:44] Scott Maderer: [00:31:44] on? I used to tell people, I'm like you want to dissuade yourself of that. Go volunteer at a science fair, somewhere or another group, there's other avenues, but that one was with mine.
[00:31:53] Orly Wahba: [00:31:53] If that makes, as a teacher you, when I remember it as a teacher, You come in to, to, to school? I would never, I would actually sit with the [00:32:00] kids during lunch. I wasn't, I was not a, the teacher that was hanging out with the teachers in the teacher's room and stuff like that. I love being with the kids, my kids, my students were my best friends.
[00:32:08] Really. I felt like they were my brothers and my sisters. And. You don't realize people put on these snap judgements of what a kid is. Oh, this kid is this kind of a kid. And then all of a sudden, everyone else that's around will only see a person in that specific way. We have to be so careful with our words.
[00:32:25] Our words are extremely powerful. I would say if you're going to, if you want to take on any amazing act of kindness that you want to start working on and it's not going to be easy. So I warn you from the very beginning start recognizing the things that come out of your mouth. Don't know. Do we ever notice how interesting it is?
[00:32:40] We have two eyes. We have two ears, right? Two hands, two feet, two nostrils. We only got one mouth. Isn't that interesting. It's very interesting to me. And I see that our mouth, our voice is our greatest strength in this world. It is our ability to create comes from here, right? Because we are able to [00:33:00] inspire others with our words.
[00:33:01]We can do a lot of good, but we also could do a lot of harm. So if we become mindful right in the, and our mouth, our voice is basically the connection between our mind, what we're thinking and what's in our heart and it's coming out through our mouth and the same mouth that's being used to maybe ask for good things to come into our life is the same mouth that we're using.
[00:33:20] If we curse somebody out or we say something negative, right? That's the same tool you're using the same instrument. If you're going to break it and put holes in that instrument. It's not going to be able to work for you the same kind of way. And so just by being mindful of the words that come out of your mouth and the power that they have to either build or to tear down that to me is such a huge step in.
[00:33:44] Really incorporating kindness into your life. How do you use your words to speak to people you can either, right? Cause you use your mouth breathing air, right air. How do you build up the life vest? How do you fill a life vest up? So that will keep you afloat. You blow.
[00:33:58] Scott Maderer: [00:33:58] Yup. They tell you to blow on that little thing.
[00:34:01] [00:34:00] Orly Wahba: [00:34:01] You could breathe life into somebody, fill them with love, fill them with hope, fill them with care. Or instead you can completely knock the air out of them by punching them right in the gut. So what do you want to be doing? Filling them with air. Or taking their air out and that's all comes from our mouth.
[00:34:17] Scott Maderer: [00:34:17] So one of the things that you said earlier, and I want to circle back to it and unpack it a little bit more, as you were talking about the importance of the choices that we make. And I, and you even pointed it out that most people, I think don't believe that their choices have impact or their choices worth it.
[00:34:36] I would say it's probably. No, that feeling of powerlessness is a very common one. I, one of the things that I'll actually tell when I'm working with people as a coach, I don't let people say I had to I'm like that. You're not allowed to say that it's I chose to. Exactly. Okay. I don't even care if all the other choices were terrible choices, you still have the choice [00:35:00] and you made the choice.
[00:35:01] How're you know that to recognize that. So how can we begin to recognize the power of our own choices for ourselves and for others?
[00:35:11] Orly Wahba: [00:35:11] So it's a very good question. And again, I don't want to call, I'm going to come back to the same thing that I was talking about. Again, understanding that your choices matter and actually the film kindness boring.
[00:35:22] I would ask, I would encourage those that are on that are listening and maybe haven't seen the kindness, boomerang film. It's a five minute music video and it's all based on real life experiences. I personally went through like moments that have left an impression on my life. And there are no, there's no dialogue in this film and all it is.
[00:35:41] It's an energy that's being passed from one person to the next, through their eyes because their eyes are the window to the soul. And it's one act that goes from one person to the next, and then comes back to the person that started it. Now you have to understand in our life, we don't have a video camera hanging up over above our head, or maybe we do.
[00:35:57] I don't know, but we don't get to see the fun [00:36:00] exactly. We don't get to see the final film of how the action that we put out into the world. In a sense, boomerangs back to us. Sometimes we do. Sometimes it takes a year, five years, 10 years. Sometimes you'll never ever see it, but we'll, but we have to believe what we have to understand.
[00:36:14] The purpose of that film is to recognize that when you throw something out there into the world, it creates a life of its own. And you have the ability to supercharge. Somebody think about it like this. Here's a good way to understand it. Imagine I'm walking down the street and boom, I bump into you Scott.
[00:36:31] And I say, wow, Scott, I love your haircut. It looks fantastic. What did I just do with this small compliment? I just it's as though, and you might've been going through a bad day or who knows I'd be going on. I just supercharged you, whether you cared about the column, not, I just supercharged you now as you're going to walk and you're going to bump into the next person, the likelihood is you're going to do something.
[00:36:51] That's going to supercharge them and then they're supercharging another, just see it within yourself. When somebody says something or does something that's nice to you, does it [00:37:00] matter to you? Yeah. Not only that, it's probably a story that you tell and you recount time after time. If I were to ask you, can you name a few teachers that jaded your journey through school, or think of a few people that made you feel appreciated or special, or you're going to know right away, you got the names in your head and suddenly Oh, I remember when this person did this, the things that we remember in this world, we remember those that care.
[00:37:28] Therefore the choice that they made mattered, it mattered to you. So therefore the choice that you make matters to another, there's something that I have, and it's actually meant to do exactly what we're talking about right now. It was a really cool experiment. I started this some years ago. They're called catching kindness cards.
[00:37:46] These are my favorite. How do they work? So basically when you see somebody, the purpose of them is to train you to start seeing. Opportunities for good so that you can recognize in a sense [00:38:00] choices and you can help another recognize the importance of their choices. So what happens if you see somebody doing something nice for someone else?
[00:38:07] Not for you, it's easy to see somebody do something good for you, right? If you see someone doing something nice for someone else, you pass them this card. And on the back of it, it says tag, you're it. You've just been caught doing an act of kindness. Now it's your turn to keep your eyes peeled and to catch someone else in the act.
[00:38:25] Why do I love these cards? For the person giving it, you're now working on training your eyes. You're doing an exercise for your eye actually, but the person receiving it. I remember doing this. I was on the train and there was a guy that got up for this older woman. And before I left, I gave him this card and he first looked at me like, what are you?
[00:38:43] He has nothing to do with me on the stand. He didn't get up for me. He said, w who are you? What is it? And he looked at it and as I walked up and I looked back at him and he started reading, he started to smile. And I'm going to tell you something. He had, no, he might've said, wow.
[00:38:56] Somebody was just watching me. I had no idea. I got to tell you [00:39:00] something the next time he has that opportunity. He's more likely going to take it because why he recognizes that other people. Are being inspired and impacted by him, whether for the good or for the bed. So if you recognize that your choices suddenly start becoming better choices because you can automatically see, wow, I, it's not just the choice I'm making for me.
[00:39:28] I just inspired someone else. Somebody watching me, not in a creepy sentence, but somebody just watch me engage in this. My choices really do matter. So these are some ways or some things that people can do in terms of recognizing that.
[00:39:43]Scott Maderer: [00:39:43] So you can follow orally on Twitter at life vest inside, or find out more about her on our website at life vest, inside.com. She's also active on Facebook under life vest inside, and you can find out more about the kindness, boomerang and the [00:40:00] book over at kindness, boomerang.com. And of course I'll have links to all of that over in the show notes.
[00:40:04] Orally. Is there anything else that you'd like to share with the listener?
[00:40:07] Orly Wahba: [00:40:07] I would love to actually share the YouTube channel, which is also out life S inside.com. To me, that is actually our most engaged channel. We're on YouTube. We're also on Instagram, on YouTube. I put out a weekly video called the kindness kickoff with orderly, where I do a reading from my book.
[00:40:23]Once a week and I give everybody a kindness challenge to go out there and do plus that's where you'll be able to hear about the cool video collaborations we have going on. The one that we're up to right now is called a tribute to our elders, and we put up all of those videos directly on their channel.
[00:40:37] So you'll see the kindness boomerang on there as well as loads of other inspirational films that you can use in your own way.
[00:40:43]Scott Maderer: [00:40:43] Thanks so much for listening to the inspired stewardship podcast. As a subscriber and listener, we challenge you to not just sit back and passively listen, but act on what you've heard and find a way to live your calling. [00:41:00] If you enjoy this episode please do us a favor. Go over to inspired stewardship.com/itunes rate.
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Episode 851: Impact the World – Interview with Mark Herschberg author of “The Career Toolkit” – Part 4

April 19, 2021 By Scott Leave a Comment

Join us today for Part 4 of the Interview with Mark Herschberg author of "The Career Toolkit"

This is Part 4 of the interview I had with speaker, teacher, and author Mark Herschberg.

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In today’s interview with Mark Herschberg, Mark shares with you why ethics are important to the impact you make. Mark also shares some of the principles he believes are key to making an impact. Mark also talks with you about the impact he hopes he has on the world.

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Episode 851 Impact the World - Interview with Mark Herschberg author of The Career Toolkit â€“ Part 4
[00:00:00] Scott Maderer: [00:00:00] Thanks for joining us on episode 850, one of the inspired stewardship podcast.
[00:00:07] Mark Herschberg: [00:00:07] I'm Mark Hirschberg. I encourage you to invest in yourself, your organization and others around you to positively impact the world by using your time and your talent to make this world a better place. Having the skills to succeed in your career.
[00:00:22] Your business is key. One way to do this is to listen to the inspired stewardship podcast with my friend Scott Mader. For example, you ever talked to mutual funds. People probably have, at some point you see there's this multi page list of tiny font and talks about how you can lose money with this. And this is secured or not secured and all these little details.
[00:00:50] And the reason is because years ago there were some unscrupulous people who ripped off widows and orphans who used to say, Oh, this is going to make you money. I guarantee it.
[00:01:00] [00:01:00] Scott Maderer: [00:01:00] Welcome and thank you for joining us on the inspired stewardship podcast. If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to be, then you must learn to use your time, your talent and your treasures for your true calling and the inspired stewardship podcast.
[00:01:17] Go learn to invest in yourself, invest in others and develop your influence so that you. Can impact the world.
[00:01:26]In today's interview with Mark Hirschberg, Mark shares with you, why ethics are important to the impact you make. Mark also share some of the principles he believes are the key to really making an impact on the world. And Mark also talks with you about the impact and legacy that he hopes he leaves in the world.
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[00:02:35] From tracking criminals and terrorists on the dark web to creating marketplaces and new authentication systems. Mark Hirschberg has spent his career launching and developing new ventures at startups and fortune five hundreds. And in academia. He helped us start the undergraduate practice opportunities program, dubbed MIT's career success accelerator, where he [00:03:00] teaches annually at MIT.
[00:03:01] He received a BS in physics, a BS in electrical engineering and computer science and a master's of engineering and electrical engineering and computer science focusing on cryptography. At Harvard business school, Mark helped create a platform use to teach finance at prominent business schools. He also worked with many nonprofits, including techie youth and plant a million corrals.
[00:03:26] He was one of the top right ballroom dancers in the country, and he now lives in New York city. Or he is known for his social gatherings, including his annual Halloween party, as well as diverse cufflink collection. Mark has also recently published a new book called the career toolkit, essential skills for success that no one taught you.
[00:03:46]So when people think about impacting the world about making a long-term difference maybe it's leaving a legacy and all of that we talked last week a little bit about ethics and how that fits into influence [00:04:00] and developing ourselves. I think there's also An impact lesson that comes out of ethical questions and ethical systems.
[00:04:07]What would you say is important about understanding ethics when it comes to making an impact?
[00:04:13] Mark Herschberg: [00:04:13] It's understanding those secondary effects. It's understanding not just how this is going to impact me or the company or this product, how it's going to impact the customer, the supplier. The world, the person who buys it second hand, the person who throws this out and tosses it away, it's understanding the full impact of what we do.
[00:04:38] It's even understanding how by doing this, I am setting a precedent or example for others to follow. And what will that mean down the road?
[00:04:49] Scott Maderer: [00:04:49] And I think, last week we also talked about negotiations and you mentioned how sometimes when people come into a negotiation and it's a one-off. No, a single transaction kind of relationship [00:05:00] back to the used car salesman.
[00:05:01]We think about that and I think one of the reasons that people will behave badly is because they are thinking about that as a one-off transactional here and now, but even in a one-off transaction, it still creates reputation. It still creates stories. And still, if I walk out of the car, Dealership.
[00:05:23] And I feel like I was ripped off, even if I wasn't. I just feel like I was, what's the story I tell my friends, how does that impact your business? How does that impact as well? What does that cause us to think about, how should we be thinking differently, even when we're coming into those single one-off kinds of things to help make a bigger impact for ourselves as business owners and individuals.
[00:05:46] Mark Herschberg: [00:05:46] Yeah. It, even the fact that I picked the used car example and that we all know, okay, the used car sales, when we know that true, there are good, honest, used car salesman out there. But we think about the negative because they have [00:06:00] built up such a reputation, even if they were in the minority that we now have that impact, it impacts the good ones.
[00:06:06] It impacts the ones who are sincere. It makes us trust them less. And so we do need to think about that larger impact. We need individuals, organizations, industries, groups of all sorts to say, we need to set some standards and guidelines. And I know people, especially small business owners often talk about there's way too many regulations we're over-regulated in this country.
[00:06:33] But really every regulation we have is because at one point, someone said I feel comfortable doing this and they went further than most of society accepted. If, for example, you ever buy stocks or mutual funds and I'm guessing most people probably have. At some point, you see there's this multi page list of tiny font and talks about, how you can lose money with this.
[00:06:58] And this is secured or not [00:07:00] secured and all these little details. And the reason is because years ago there were some unscrupulous people who ripped off widows and orphans who used to say, Oh, this is going to make you money. I guarantee it. And people believe them and I lost money. So now they said, you know what?
[00:07:15] There's going to be someone, not most people, but there's going to be a few people out there who go and say, Oh, I promise you this will make money. Okay, how do we stop that? We have to make sure everyone very explicitly says, I cannot promise you, you will make money. You might lose money. And now all of us, because of just a handful of bad apples, have to now go through pages and pages of fine print and say, yep.
[00:07:37] Okay. I understand I can lose money. And so each of these regulations are because we do come from different backgrounds. We do draw the line differently and society had to say, Okay, this is confusing. And some of you are going too far. So we have to put a clear line for everyone and really society steps in when no one else does [00:08:00] right.
[00:08:00] Society. Meaning regulators. If we, as an industry can set standards and guidelines society doesn't have to. So try to be proactive, especially if you want to minimize more regulations. Try to do it yourself. And that means not you as an individual, but you get a coalition of people and you say, these are our standards.
[00:08:22] That's one less thing that regulators have to do
[00:08:25] Scott Maderer: [00:08:25] well. And I think it's important to recognize because we talk a lot of times about the government and we talk a lot about companies and we talk a lot about, we use these terms like that as if a corporation is this monolithic, creature well, Companies are made up of people.
[00:08:44] Governments are made up of people, bureaucracies are made up of people. And oftentimes people trying to do the best they can in a bad situation, even. And so it is recognizing that. It's out of our individual [00:09:00] choices that come those larger choices too. It, we talked about that last week in terms too, of the, sometimes there's that moment of not, no, I cannot do this.
[00:09:10] I can't participate. I'm going to say no. So how does that play out too, with the skills that you're talking about? Recognizing that. W, we're part of the solution. We're part of the problem. We're part of the monolith that is out there. There,
[00:09:25]Mark Herschberg: [00:09:25] The, as you were saying, that kind of reminded me of that childhood game with the Weegee board, where everyone put their finger on it and the letter it would move to.
[00:09:35]It wasn't you, it wasn't me. It was all of us together. The net effect of us moving. And we have to recognize where we're part of that system. There's a great quote. And unfortunately I forget who gave it, but the quote is basically in an avalanche, every snowflake, pleads innocent. And it really is.
[00:09:59] It's that [00:10:00] net effect that you're talking about. And we have to be aware of that. We have to be aware of I, wasn't the one who did this, it wasn't me. But it was a tiny bit of me. It was me with everyone. No one else who did this. And we have to recognize how we are part of these larger organizations.
[00:10:17] I don't mean necessarily formal ones of companies, just larger have networks and groups of people. And sometimes even unintentionally, in that Weegee board, you wind up on a letter, no one SRE intended that letter, but somehow together, unintentionally, this is where you wound up. And this is what happens with us in groups.
[00:10:34] We didn't plan for it to work out exactly like this. No one necessarily wanted it. No one could've predicted it, but here we are. And as part of this community, whether I am officially, I stepped up and I'm part of this club or just, I am part of this community because here I am, we have to take some responsibility.
[00:10:53]Scott Maderer: [00:10:53] And again, that gets back to that agency question. Again I used to tell when I was in senior management, I had other [00:11:00] managers that, you know, and leaders that reported to me, and one of the things I used to tell them, they would come in and they were complaining about an employee, an employee doing something.
[00:11:09] And I used to say it so much that it almost got to be a joke where people would come in and say it because they knew I was going to say it to them, which is. Yeah, nobody shows up at work on Monday going boy, I really hope I suck at my job this week. It just doesn't happen. So what is it that's going on?
[00:11:27] That's causing them to fail. Because it's usually not, that they're deliberately setting out to fail. I guess that maybe exists somewhere, but I would say it's probably pretty dang rare in the real truth. At least in most corporate kinds of situations or, high, higher jobs.
[00:11:43]If that makes sense, are people further along in their career? So I think that plays out as well. Go ahead.
[00:11:49] Mark Herschberg: [00:11:49] This is a really important point. And in the management chapter, I talk about retrospectives now, retrospective, if you don't know the term, it's the more modern term for a post-mortem. [00:12:00] And in fact, we companies figured out is let's not wait until the end of the project after it failed to figure out what's working and what isn't let's do check-ins regularly.
[00:12:08] And
[00:12:09] Scott Maderer: [00:12:09] after actions and my companies
[00:12:11] Mark Herschberg: [00:12:11] say after action, whereas a term that came from the military. So let's do these regular retrospectives and norm Kurth, who is one of the leaders of the retrospective movement. He created what he calls a prime directive. I'm not gonna be able to quote it exactly off the top of my head, but the concept is the following.
[00:12:30] As you begin the retrospective, you say, we all agree that everyone here did the best that they could given what they knew at the time. And that it a failures and the mistakes weren't because to your point, someone showed up and said, I want to do a crappy job today. We all tried our best. And we're all going to recognize that and learn how sometimes the situation or misunderstanding may have led to this problem.
[00:12:58] And when you go in with that [00:13:00] attitude, when you say, look, we recognize you tried, you did your best. I did my best. We did our best. We start to say, what can we do to do better, as opposed to. Oh you screwed this up. You didn't get this to me on time. It's your fault because then no, one's going to want to admit to problems or mistakes, and we're never going to find what that root causes.
[00:13:22] Scott Maderer: [00:13:22] So as we get to the end of our time together, I want to transition to some of the, what I jokingly always tell people are the easy questions because they're not, which is if you get to a period and let's say you could magically travel into the far future a hundred years, 150 years in the future, and you could look back on your life.
[00:13:43] What impact do you hope that this book, the other work you've done, what impact do you hope you leave behind as a legacy?
[00:13:53] Mark Herschberg: [00:13:53] I certainly hope I've had a wonderful family far into the future, but in terms of impact [00:14:00] outside of that, I hope I will have helped as many people as possible. With their professional efficacy, with their ability to be successful in whatever path they choose and to make the most out of the talents that they have.
[00:14:14] And at the same time, I hope I have helped make the world a more ethical place, a more responsible place and a place where we can all feel proud.
[00:14:26] Scott Maderer: [00:14:26] So what's coming up next for you, as you continue on this journey yourself to, figuring out your career plan and continuing to move, it's changed over the years and making an impact what's coming down the pike for you?
[00:14:38]Mark Herschberg: [00:14:38] Hopefully a family. That's definitely something I want to focus more on. But also continuing to do the work that I do with mostly startup companies, continuing to act as a CTO, COO build organizations, create products that help make the world better. And then in parallel, continue the work. I do teach at universities [00:15:00] as well as what's coming out of the book and helping people to learn and be more effective in their careers.
[00:15:06] And then hopefully doing a little more work with corporations as they try to develop programs, to teach these skills and help their employees become more effective and just helping both the employee and the company as a whole do better.
[00:15:22] Scott Maderer: [00:15:22] You can follow Mark on Twitter under career tool, kit, BK for book, or find him on his website@thecareertoolkitbook.com.
[00:15:34] He's also active on LinkedIn as at Hershey and on Facebook at the career toolkit book. I'll have links to all of this over in the show notes as well. Mark, is there anything else you'd like to share with the listener?
[00:15:49] Mark Herschberg: [00:15:49] These are skills that don't simply help you. They can help everyone in your organization.
[00:15:56] And the more others you work with, whether they are your [00:16:00] peers or whether they are your subordinates and your business, the more effective they can be in these skills, the more effective your organization will be. And turns out as you want to learn these skills, whether it's developing your understanding of ethics and where your lines are, or developing your networking negotiation, leadership skills, these are best learned with other people.
[00:16:23] And so don't take this on alone. Create peer learning groups. This is how business schools teach this. Create these peer learning groups and work out together. There's actually a free download on the resources page that teaches you how you can build these organizations within your own company. You can use my book, you can use other books.
[00:16:42] This is not just a ploy to sell my books. This is a technique that you can use to improve, and you can take whatever content you want, but I really encourage you to do it with others because that's the best way to learn these skills.
[00:16:53]Scott Maderer: [00:16:53] thanks so much for listening to the inspired stewardship podcast as a subscriber and [00:17:00] listener, we challenge you to not just sit back and passively listen, but act on what you've heard and find a way to live your calling. If you enjoy this episode. Please do us a favor. Go over to inspired stewardship.com/itunes rate.
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