Episode 981: Invest in Others - Interview with Kyle Sullivan creator of Unleash the Champ - Part 2

[00:00:00] Thanks for joining me on episode 981 of the inspired stewardship podcast. I'm Carl Sullivan. I challenge you to invest in yourself, invest in others, develop your influence and impact the world by using your time, talent, and treasures, to live out your calling, having the ability to find and live your championship.

[00:00:21] Run is key in one way to be inspired to do that is to listen to this. The inspired stewardship podcast with my friend, Scott Mader.

[00:00:30] most important person you can take care of in the most important level and area of stewardship that you can have is taken care of. You can't pour from an empty cup, said so many times, but it's so true. That'd be the first one. Take care of yourself first to. Commit yourself out to be able to learn it or not to know it all.

[00:00:56] Welcome. And thank you for joining us on the inspired [00:01:00] stewardship podcasts. If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to be, then you must learn to use your time, your talent and your treasures for your true. And the inspired stewardship podcast, we'll learn to invest in yourself, invest in others and develop your influence so that you can impact the world.

[00:01:23] And today's interview with Kyle Sullivan. I asked Kyle to share what attracted him to the career of coaching. I also ask Kyle what he suggests you do to help others have their own championship run. And Kyle also shares with you why it's so important to walk the walk yourself. One reason I like to bring you great interviews.

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[00:02:48] Kyle founded, unleashed the champ to create powerful coaching experiences for people and organizations that lead to discovering and stepping into the champion. They were created to be [00:03:00] with over 10 years of organizational leadership and team development, leading thousands of people, plus a growing desire to learn at all.

[00:03:07] He strives to inspire people everywhere to unlock the cages they are in and unleash the champ. Welcome to the show, Kyle, Hey Scott, I am super excited to be on today and to have this conversation. So Kyle, last week, we talked a little bit about how you transitioned from being a pastor and you launch your own coaching business and your own coaching career.

[00:03:32] You even told the story of how, your wife looked at you and went, dude, you're the last one to figure out what you should be doing? What was it about coaching and consulting and this sort of work that attracted you? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I laugh every time. I think about my wife's interaction with me on that, but what led me to it, I think it goes far back to even like elementary school.

[00:03:53] Cause I believe that like desires get placed in us and then it gets watered. It's get, it gets cultivated. And then, in [00:04:00] previous episodes we're talking about the reveal and the release, right? So in the same way, there are things in my life, that one consistent theme in my life, isn't, there's always been people that have believed in me more than I believed in myself at that time teachers.

[00:04:19] Coaches mentors, teammates, classmates, coworkers, managers, directors, pastors, business coaches there. Right now I could list at least 10 people off the top of my head. That are challenging me to be more than I currently see myself as, and I spent a story in my life. And so I think what led me into coaching and consulting is I want to be that for millions of people.

[00:04:54] And so it's going, okay. I know what that has done to me. [00:05:00] And if I could do it for someone else and then duplicate and scale that to where unleashed the champ is a mantra that just goes worldwide and people are like, I'm done playing small it's time to win. Oh, my gosh, that's what led me into it.

[00:05:18] That's what attracts me about it. That's what gets me excited to do it is because I know what it feels like to have someone dope. Hey, I know you don't feel like it right now. But this is what I see in you. And if you do X, Y, and Z, you increase your chances of becoming debt. And then lo and behold, I get to that next level.

[00:05:41] Boom, somebody else, Hey man, come on up, man. And so that's what attracted me. That's what I feel got me into it. And that's what makes me so passionate about it. Making that spread, being that for other people having that idea of a championship run continue to spread and impact others.

[00:05:58] Now let's talk about [00:06:00] that a little bit this week. If somebody's thinking of that right now they're thinking about someone in their head that they're like, I see more in that person. I know there's more there that person could do. What are some things that they can do or say, or, how can they approach that with the other person to help them step in to being that well, Matt, I love that question because a few things go on Mars.

[00:06:23] One is, are you living. Because sometimes we got to start there, but the question is assuming that you're somebody, your listeners, or somebody that are already doing it. So we know you're already making your championship run. You're already doing it. You want to bring somebody along one. Are they willing to hear you?

[00:06:47] Because the right thing set it at the wrong time is the wrong thing. And there've been so many times that I thought I was being helpful and it was actually hurtful. And so I live one of my mantras actually. And if you [00:07:00] will, is everything I say should be true, but not every true thing should be said or is that ever?

[00:07:06] Sure. And so a lot of times we recognize, Hey, this person could be doing so much for him, but my question would be, are they open to hearing. Are they in a place to hear it. And do you actually want to take the time to guide them to getting there? Because if you're just like a shotgun and you just, oh, I see that on the call it out of you actually do more confusing than inspiring to them to go.

[00:07:34] And I think you live it out, make sure the person's open to it. And then you just commit to saying, Hey, I want to meet once a month. I want to meet once a quarter or whatever the case may be. And he is build a plan and work the plan because I know that being in proximity to people, I want to be like, and people aspiring to think that's.

[00:07:57] Oftentimes enough for me to get [00:08:00] moving in the right direction or to overcome challenges in my own championship run.

[00:08:04] Kyle, the first thing that you said there was, they have to be living it out themselves. They have to be walking the walk, so to speak, before they can talk the talk. Again, I think there's probably someone that heard that and went, Ooh, wait a minute. Maybe I'm not really walking this out myself yet.

[00:08:18] Completely. Maybe they are doing it some, but they're not all the way there yet. What are some things that we can do ourselves to make sure that really we are presenting. We are walking the walk before we turn around and try to help others. Yeah. It's got to think one of the things to make sure is that you are doing the thing you're trying to coach somebody to do or inspire them to do.

[00:08:42] For example, if I wanted to reference this book and that book and this podcast and that podcast, but I'm not, these are books that I read years ago or months ago, not weeks ago, days ago. Okay. Yes, you can help somebody, but. Are you actively doing the things [00:09:00] you're telling people to do? And I think another thing is you don't have to be so far ahead.

[00:09:06] So what I don't want to paint is a picture that you got to be perfect to help people. There's only one perfect person and it ain't me. It ain't you. And it ain't the listener, Scott. And so understand that, like you really only got to be a couple chapters ahead to help somebody read the chapters you've just gone through.

[00:09:28] And so I would say don't overextend yourself. Don't try to speak to things that you don't, because you think that's what people need. You can just say, Hey, I've walked through some of these things that I see you. Okay. Are you open for me to help you? Hey, would you mind if I give you a couple of things that could be beneficial to you?

[00:09:50] And so I think it's, you've put yourself in any of our, I make sure you're living it out. You ask if you could have. And you understand that you [00:10:00] don't have to be so far ahead, cause it's like the tension is, oh I can't do this. Listen to this podcast. I can't do it because I don't have it all together.

[00:10:10] Guess what? None of us do, but don't overextend yourself. I think it's the biggest thing in, Hey, I'm not where I want to be, but there are some people that I can help. I just may not be able to help them. Perfect person right now.

[00:10:23] So folks really want to make sure that they're serving others as well. We've just talked about, they want to help others. They're walking the walk a little bit themselves. Maybe they're only one chapter ahead or two chapters they have, but they're still able to help those that are still on chapter one, a one or two or three kind of principles or ideas that you think everyone should really focus on to make sure that they're really helping the people around them.

[00:10:48] That's a great question. So I think one, it all goes back to your own awareness of yourself. And so if you want to serve others [00:11:00] well, serve yourself and know yourself well. So I believe in, I teach at the most important person that you can take care of issue. Not just spouse. If you have one that kids, if you have one, not your job, if you have one, the most important person you take care of in the most important level and area of stewardship that you can have is taking care of you.

[00:11:23] You can't pour from an empty cup. It said so many times, but it's so true. So that'd be the first one take care of yourself first to. Commit yourself to be a alert at all. Not a know it all. And while I do buy those for different things or a speaking, I'm like how many of y'all want to be a proud, learn it all?

[00:11:47] And I like raise my hand cause I'm I am she genuinely curious? About anybody. I get the opportunity to be in front of. So I think that is a great principle [00:12:00] to serving others as well is look, I'm not trying to get anything from you. I just want to give, I want to learn. I want to know, I want to be inspired.

[00:12:09] I want to be intrigued by the person that I get to be across from. And then I think the third thing is understanding that the prize. Is in the process, not the outcome. So what I mean by that, Scott is oftentimes we lose focus on the gift of the grind to our ultimate destiny. But really the principle in serving others is man, it's going to be messy.

[00:12:39] There's going to be ups and downs. I do a whole talk on like embrace the scribble because that's really as really what leadership and leading and serving others is. It's not up until the ride. It's not peaks and valleys. It is just, it is throwing paint at the wall and ultimately we get there, but [00:13:00] understanding that we will ultimately get there.

[00:13:03] Is key in serving others? Because we'll have a lot more grace we'll have a lot more empathy. We'll have a lot more care. And we understand that this ain't a short term. This is a long-term thing. And I know we said three, but I'm going to give a fourth one. And that is to it. This was said, but one of my mentors, he said the problem with young leaders particularly is we grossly overestimate.

[00:13:31] What we can achieve in the short term, in the same token, we grossly underestimate what we can achieve through a lifetime of consistency. And so serving others. It's understanding it's a long play, not a short play. And so when you do that, you'll serve others swell and you'll make sure that you're focusing on the right things at the right time with the right [00:14:00] person.

[00:14:00] You can follow Kyle on Facebook is Kyle John Sullivan or find him over on his website@kylejsullivan.com. He's also active on LinkedIn is Kyle John Sullivan. And on Instagram is Kyle J. Sullivan. All of course have links to all of that over in the show notes as well. Carl, is there anything else you'd like to share with.

[00:14:22] Yeah. One of the things that I'm learning most in my current assignment of my championship run is that oftentimes we want peace. That's what we want in decisions, but peace is rarely proceeded without action in obedience. And so understanding that the piece you want you'll gain when you take action, not just when you think about it.

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