December 29

Episode 1605: Interview with Dr. Len Lopez creator of 5 S.T.E.P.S. a Day

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Join us today for the Interview with Dr. Len Lopez, creator of the 5 S.T.E.P.S. Method...

This is the interview I had with creator, nutrition expert, and fitness expert Dr. Len Lopez.  

In this #podcast episode, I interview Dr. Len Lopez. I ask Len about his unique 5 STEPS method. Len also shares with you why his 5 STEPS method came to be. I also ask Len to share with you practical advice on getting unstuck.

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Episode 1605: Interview with Dr. Len Lopez creator of 5 S.T.E.P.S. a Day

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Scott Maderer: [00:00:00] Thanks for joining us on episode 1,605 of the Inspired Stewardship Podcast.

Dr. Len Lopez: Hi, I am Dr. Len Lopez, and I challenge you to invest in yourself, invest in others, develop your influence and impact the world by using your time, your talent, and your treasures to live out your calling. Having the ability to recognize that you need to take small steps every day is key.

And one way to be inspired is to listen to the Inspired Stewardship Podcast with my friend Scott Maderer.

If you're looking for the, the magic genie to help you, five steps isn't gonna do it. It's like anything else. You need to take some steps yourself. And so if you can at least take, take account of yourself and, and here's the analogy I like to share with people. Corporations, they, the way they track their successes, they'll track revenue, [00:01:00] profits, and sales.

Scott Maderer: Welcome and thank you for joining us on the Inspired Stewardship Podcast. If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to be, then you must learn to use your time, your talent, and your treasures for your true calling. In the Inspired Stewardship podcast, you will learn to invest in yourself.

Invest in others and develop your influence so that you can impact the world.

In this podcast episode I interview Dr. Lynn Lopez. I asked Lynn about his unique five step method. Lynn also shares with you why his five steps Method came to be. And I also asked Lynn to share with you practical advice on Getting Unstuck. I have a great book that's been out for a while now called Inspired Living Assemble the Puzzle of Your Calling by Mastering Your Time, your Talent, [00:02:00] and your Treasures.

You can find out more about that book over@inspiredlivingbook.com. It'll take you to a page where there's information and you can sign up to get some mailings about it as well as purchase a copy there. I'd love to see you. Get a copy and share with me how it impacted your world.

Nutrition and fitness expert, Dr.

Lynn Lopez, is the creator of five steps a Day, a unique to-do list to help improve your habits and attitude by tracking how you feed body, mind, and spirit every day you shade in one or

all five steps for the action you took, and tap into your visual and kinesthetic learning centers to help anchor those better habits and attitude.

If you're already tracking your physical steps or closing your rings for your physical body, this will be easy. But shouldn't you also be asking what am I doing for my mind and my spirit? Welcome to the show, Lynn. [00:03:00] Well, thank you. Thank you, Scott. Thank you for inviting me today. Absolutely. I'm happy to have you here.

So I talked a little bit in the intro about some of the work you've done, uh, but I also know from talking to you, it's not anywhere close to everything you've done, but working with the five steps a day, we're gonna talk more about that as we go. But I also think of intros as sort of like Instagram photos.

They never really show the whole story. They just show part of the frame or part of the story. There's always more to it. So take us back in time a little bit and share a little bit about your journey. What have you gone through and why is this kind of the message you're putting out into the world? Okay.

Uh,

Dr. Len Lopez: let's see if I, where I can start. This is kind of. Because right now I'm the, I'm kind of the older guy. I've not, I'm not gonna say old anymore. I'm the older guy with young kids. But I can see my kids that are going to, uh, they're finished out their last years of co uh, high school. And so their preparation as for what they're [00:04:00] gonna wanna do when they get older, and I learned when I was in private practice, so many people in their.

Twenties, thirties and forties. And I'll go further with that. They still wouldn't tell know what they, what the heck they were trying to do. They just ended up where they're at without a, that wasn't the real goal for some people. And so for mine, my journey has gone from, I started out in, in, in college to, in the wanting to go pre-med pharmacy and everything.

And then after like the first semester, I thought that I can't memorize all this stuff. So I got out of that. And we got into the business and started, and I enjoyed the business, uh, studies out there because it took a lot of thinking and thought, you know, what's gonna provoke you to like this gene this car, this bike.

So I spent the next 10 years doing that, had my ups and downs, got outta college. Uh, had some great successes when in my early years, uh, was in business for a while with my brothers lost my business in my house with my brothers, and they did too. [00:05:00] But, you know, became an actor for a couple years and, uh, oh, I guess all before that started, I had broken my back playing ball and so one thing that the only guy that really helped me with is one chiropractor.

That kind of got me back in there about a, about, uh, 12 years later. So 32, I entered chiropractic school and you know, I came out, uh, just because I met some people that were very helpful and they helped me also understand it's not just getting the body physically working, but also the, the whole nutrition aspect of it.

And I was into sports, so sports medicine, nutrition. I wasn't doing that for about 20 years or so, and. Everything was going good. You know, had some successes, you know, started manufacturing nutritional products and everything. Manu invented a fitness product, started manufacture, started selling that had my headache with partnerships and everything but it was to do what I was teaching my patients how to get healthier.[00:06:00]

You know, I, I always tell them they know there's, uh, every week you're going to have an opportunity to take 21 steps forward to better health, right? Three meals a day, seven days a week. And that's kind of how I evolved to where I finally got in the last couple of years to five steps a day, which is something, the new thing I'm trying to do, not just help people with helping the physical body, uh, but also help them recognize how important it is to feed your mind, and most importantly, feed your spirit.

Scott Maderer: We'll definitely talk more about that as we go. But I, I wanna ask you a question. 'cause you just talked about, you know, kind of seeing your kids and them not necessarily knowing what they want to be, and then you coming across folks that didn't wanna know what they wanted to be. But then with your own journey, you started with kind of.

A medicine idea and that kind then went into business, but then came back to medical in a, you know, in a different way. But still that idea of medical and helping people what do you think it was about your journey that kind of caused you to, to bounce between those [00:07:00] things instead of, you know, quote, take a straight line through from one to the other.

Dr. Len Lopez: Well, I, I, it's funny 'cause I, I've talked to my kids' friends and some of them already seem to know what they want to do, you know and

Scott Maderer: by the way, they're

Dr. Len Lopez: probably

Scott Maderer: wrong,

Dr. Len Lopez: but they

Scott Maderer: know.

Dr. Len Lopez: Yeah. They'll probably start off on in direction A, but then the end in direction C because just like myself, but yeah, so many people, I mean, there's some people for a perfect example, people who want to become pilots.

I think people that wanna become pilots, they know that by the time they're like 10 or 12 years old, they just say, gosh. They look up in the air, they see that they get on an airplane. They just say, this is what I want to do. Others, you know, want be policeman, they want to go in the military, they wanna do whatever.

Uh, and and I, I talking with my patients over those years, I just knew. That very successful people would sit across from me in, in, in my office and everything, and they would just humbly and they might be in there to fix [00:08:00] abr a hurt shoulder hurt, knee hurt, this, or various other health issues. But then they didn't let some of the emotional stuff out and sometimes they just really didn't realize that they were I'm married now, I have kids, I have a mortgage and I'm doing this job and this really wasn't the thing I really wanted to do, but I feel like I'm stuck here.

So I, it just learning that, understanding that, seeing that, that you, because you know, when you talk to your friends, you never get into those kind of conversations typically. And as far as saying, I, I, I feel like I'm stuck somewhere. I'm not sure where I'm going and everything. They're just, they're just going with the flow and everything.

And so I see myself with trying to guide my kids and just like, I, I know you may not know what you want to do, but I think you still need to get your education. And, uh, as I always joke around when I, I wrote a a teen version of five Steps and I talk about, you know, after your 18th birthday, you know, now you gotta decide what do you wanna do?

You're gonna [00:09:00] join the military, go join the new, join a band, go, go overseas. Uh, what are you gonna do, uh, after the, after your 18th birthday? 'cause your first 18 years of life, or pretty well scripted out for you here?

Scott Maderer: Usually I think for most of us, you know, your journey's more typical where it's not necessarily a straight line until we look back at it, and then we start seeing, you know, we see how dots connect, looking backwards, not looking forwards, or at least that seems to be the, the route most of us take.

I, I like your analogy where it's not a straight line. It's, it's never a straight line. So when you think about it, you know, one of the things you mentioned is kind of taking care of your spiritual life, and that's one of the things I like to emphasize of the show is sort of how our, our faith walk our spiritual walk, whatever it is, affects our life journey.

Then how our life journey affects our, our spiritual development and our, our faith walk. So share a little bit about how that has played out for you, what that journey has been [00:10:00] part of, uh, for your life.

Dr. Len Lopez: I, I was raised in your typical Hispanic Catholic home. I guess, for lack of a better analogy is that, you know, and I, and I joke about it now, when I would talk, I would say, you know, every Sunday on my way to church and everything, we'd stop by, pick up Jesus on the way to church, had to get to church.

An hour later, come back, drop him off, and we really wouldn't ever think or hear about him again until next Sunday when we went to go pick him up again. And, but it wasn't until, you know, when I got through high school, I started scratching my head because here, I'm, I'm, I'm, I know there's a God and everything I'm taught, I was told that by my family and my friends and everything when I was.

A teenager, but then I'm opening the books in school and they're showing me pictures of Crow Magnum and Neanderthal Man and say, know it's evolution. So that had me just kind of bouncing back and forth a bit, what, you know, Hey, how can these boats be right? That I didn't understand that. And it really wasn't until a few [00:11:00] years later is at the end of my college career.

Just in fact, it was a girlfriend. She got me to start she, she told me some stories about about, that we're in the Bible. Are you telling me the David and Goliath story? That's a biblical story. I, I, I had no idea. I, I thought that was like, you know, fairytale, like Pinocchio and stuff like that.

She goes, no. Same thing with, with Jonah and the world. That's a true story. I thought that was another one of those, you know, dragon slayer type stories and everything. And, and so to her credit and everything is that it, uh, it, it, it stirred me. To open up and I got a college Bible, one of the paraphrased college Bibles, and I think I devoured that in like less than four months, just reading the whole thing and it's just like.

And that that really current started my journey to want to start walking with him and like your typical Christian or new believer. Sometime I'm happy [00:12:00] to be walking with him. Then other times I'm like, no, no, go over there. I don't want you right now. I wanna walk, I wanna, I wanna lead by my own, by my own coalition and everything.

That, that was just learning more again, learning more again, reading more, understanding more. So I've had my ups and downs, highs and lows and, and, uh, yeah, there, there's been some other professionals that, that have helped me get into understanding that the importance of having him as your number one guidance in your life.

Scott Maderer: So you talk about the Five Steps a Day and Steps as an acronym, of course. So walk us through those. What, what are the five steps a day, kind of, how did you arrive at 'EM and, and how do those apply to folks?

Dr. Len Lopez: Okay. Great question. Well, five Steps is, it's an acronym. The word step is just an acronym for sleep Think e.

Physical and spirit and what it is, it's just an accountability. [00:13:00] It's in a way to see are, are you doing what you need to be doing to feed body, mind and spirit? If you think about people that are, you know, counting their physical steps, right? They're using their watches to count their physical steps. They are, uh, track, they're closing their rings on their circle and they're on their watch to see if they're being physically active.

It's like, okay, that's great, but what are you doing for your mind and spirit? And so I had developed this thing years ago because I was I used to track a lot of stuff that I would do on my a monthly calendar. You know, I would just write, if I was exercising I'd, I'd put my little my little e or whatever, whatever notation I would do to note that if I wanted to get better in my golf game, if I wanted to get better in playing guitar, I wanted to teach or wanted to get better in being an artist, I knew I had to practice two to three times a week.

Better dancer. All this stuff. I wanted to read it, so I wanted to make sure I read enough books there and did I read, and so I was just always on my calendar, write stuff out and everything. And at the end of the month, I can quickly [00:14:00] see. How good or how bad I was doing. And you, it was my accountability journal and so it must have been just a couple years ago that I was being interviewed for, uh, for Magazine Authority Magazine.

Uh, they had contacted me and said, doc, we'd love to do an interview with you on health and fitness. Did it. Year. About a year later, they came back and said, doc, we would like to do one again on health and fitness, but we really wanna go along that body, mind, spirit thing. I don't know if that's kind of within you or is that gonna be outside of what your realm is?

So, you know, I scratched my head about it and thought about it, went sleep with it, slept on and everything. And next morning I, I, I shared with them what I'd been doing with five steps. And they just came back and said, this is the coolest thing I'd ever seen. There's nothing like this out there. It's a great accountability journey.

And so it just gave me the confidence to come out there and I guess part of my reservation, in all honesty, why I hadn't done anything with it. I was kind of split between, am I gonna be talking [00:15:00] about spirit, trying to get closer to him? Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior are just for okay. There could be some people that think of Spirit just.

You know, my spirit, it's just, you know, it's not the same thing. And you know, I want to capture the whole market. You know, say, well, no, let's just, and, and so when I shared it with, with Authority Magazine and they came back and said, they really dug this thing I thought. Maybe this is what I've been waiting for.

Let me take it out. Let me go out there and share it. Unfortunately, right when the article came out, my mother had just passed away.

Scott Maderer: Oh.

Dr. Len Lopez: So that, that created a challenge and everything. And, but you know, months later I, I said, let me, let me sit there. And so I started figure out what I want to do, share it with some other.

So from some people from church and some other friends of mine, just other, uh, what do you call 'em? Just, uh not Copa, but just other amigos, for lack of a better word, that you, that you trust in their, in their opinion. And they all, they all told me two things. [00:16:00] Uh, they said, Lynn, this is really cool. But you need to make this an app and my kids need to read this thing.

Uh, because it was just like three pages, you know, just so about describing each one of the steps. And so they just, it helped gimme the motivation. And again, as I said, it was just a simple way to track how you are you feeding your body? Are you feeding your mind? Are you feed and are you feeding your spirit?

And that was a big one for me, feeding the spirit because. For myself coming from I, I, I like to say I'm an athlete. It seems from an athletic background and everything, I could always find ways to budget. Time to go, go exercise. But I always found a, a challenge or found it easy to not get up every morning and read scripture, not go to bed at night and read scripture and everything.

And I said, gosh, you know, I'm doing real good at making my my six 30 uh, gym workout or whatever I was doing, but I couldn't do find time for that. And then I just started realizing, again, this was back in the, in the nineties, [00:17:00] right? So a little bit different. We didn't have phones back then or back, I'm sorry, back in the eighties.

Uh, we didn't have cell phones back then to, but you know, nowadays it seems like wow, it's so easy to work your spiritual muscles because yes, being in the ward is great, but you can also, you know, you can also fellowship, you can also attend service, stuff like that. But gosh, you have, everybody has a phone in their pocket.

You know, you can just grab that thing. You can listen to a podcast, you can listen to a sermon, you can listen to the good music out there that's going to help. Inspire, you just draw you closer back to center where you need know. And maybe that one minute that one passage, that one phrase in the song is gonna be, is gonna connect to you.

But the more you do it, the better you're, I, I think it's, it's like exercise. The more rub you do, the more time you do, the better shape you're gonna be. And then the same thing, just the more time, more opportunity you work your spiritual muscles, the stronger you'll be when it's time for you to, when you need them for your support.[00:18:00]

Scott Maderer: So how did you come upon the idea, you know, of doing an app? Uh, I know you said your friends all said it should be an app, but what, uh, what was the thought process behind turning it into more of an app feature?

Dr. Len Lopez: That was a hard one 'cause I was kind of resistant to that. But they just said this would be so easy to do.

Like, because, you know, just instead of just with steps, you know, you, you're basically supposed to shade in your steps if you ate real good. If you ate good for the day and you don't have to eat perfect, but did you eat more good meals and bad, you know, you shade in to eat. Did you get physical shade in the P Did you think better today?

That's the, the t, you know, shade in the T and they just were telling me. That's great and everything, but if you do it on an app, because everybody's carrying a, a, carrying a phone with them and everybody use it, I think it just touch it and, and, and shad in the footstep for them. And so I just started thinking about it more and more and started, you know, trying to, I'm a doctor, you know, I'm not an app, I'm not an engineer guy, so had to go seek out help and, and, uh, guidance and, [00:19:00] and on how to make an app, what to do, what to add to it, how to make it, you know, functional, this, that, and the other.

We've kept on improving it. And then I think we're gonna do a couple more add some additional things to it as well. And I, I may, you know, I'll ask the audience if they, if they, they would like to be able to store pictures on there too, because, you know, you can also, it is not just an app. You could just see your footsteps, but you can also put notations in there like a journal.

So if you had. You know, today said, Hey, I, I was interviewed today with Scott and everything, it went great. I had da da da, you know, I worked out today, I so and so and so and so, so you can write your, you can journal with it also, but it, it's, it's, it's kinda like, I think of like Seinfeld, if you're familiar with Jerry Seinfeld, you know, he created a calendar years ago and he always attributes that his success was to his calendar.

He said that, uh, when he was young, a young comedic, he would say. If I want to be a good com uh, committee, I'm gonna need to write, I need to write 10 jokes a day. And if he did, he would put an X on his calendar. The next day if he [00:20:00] did, he put another X and he got to the point to where I like seeing all the Xs on the counter.

You don't like not seeing it. And when I, and I sh that's kind of what happened when you see, when you shade in your footsteps and one of my doctor friends who's a psychologist, he goes, you know, this is really powerful. And because you know, when you see that there's a sense of gratification that's gonna further.

Lift them up or give that endorphin hit that, Hey, I am doing good. I am making progress. So I think this is really, really a a this is a cool, this is, uh, so we'll see what it does, you know, if it helps if it helps people become healthier, great. It helps them become more confident within the self fta.

If it helps him become more spiritually aligned or get closer and draw, draw near him. Fantastic. And I hope it does that.

Scott Maderer: So when you think about folks, you know, I think a lot of times when people think about those sorts of, uh routines and doing things every day, and whether it's a morning routine, an evening routine that kind of [00:21:00] daily practices and you're talking about with, uh, Jerry Seinfeld, he called that keeping the streak.

Um and there's apps out there that, that do that in different ways. But I think one of the things that, that. Holds people back sometimes is just getting started. You know, getting, doing the first, the first, forget the streak, you know, get one x you know, it's like, so for somebody that's feeling a little stuck in their life, a little overwhelmed where, what advice do you have for 'em on how to kind of get started easy and, and get things moving forward?

Dr. Len Lopez: It's kinda like what I would tell my patients that would come in, they're trying to become healthy and fit. I go, I don't need you to run five miles tomorrow, but it would be nice if you just walked around the block. Okay. Just so let's get started there. Let's get, let's just get used to doing five minutes and then you expand from there.

And so what, which steps? I think part of it is that I think. There's so many people that I hear [00:22:00] that I would see that, you know they, I feel like they're caught in this vicious cycle. You know, they're worried about this. They're worried about finance, they're worried about their relationship, about their kids.

They're struggling with some health issues. Some of what they're doing is, is creating their body not to work as well as a copy. And it, you know, I. Everybody's, if you're looking for the, the magic genie to help you, this is not five steps isn't gonna do it. It's like anything else. You need to, you need to take some steps yourself.

And so if you can at least take account of yourself. And, and here's the analogy I like to share with people. Corporations, they, the way they track their successes, they'll track revenue, profits, and sales and see if they're good. If they are, they'll get promoted and continue being the, the potential CEO.

Whether we look, realize it or not, we are all the CEO of MMI, me, myself, and I. How do we track how well we are living our life and, and getting to where we wanna go? And so, you know, the, how are you feeding your body? [00:23:00] How are you feeding your mind? How are you feeding your spirit? And so, five steps today, it's just a simple way to track, like I said, in two minutes, you can just see how good you're doing or how bad you're doing.

You don't have to share with anybody, but. It's kinda like it says scripture pity of the man who only has one who's there by himself, but if he has somebody else to share this with, they might be, uh, they're, they're a little bit stronger with them. So hopefully, uh, somebody can start using it and say, gosh, you know and I say that because it, I know some people that are really great in their physical walk but they have no spiritual connection and just the vice versa, you have people that are really strong in their spiritual look. And again, that's when I have they, but they, they, they lack anything in their physical walk and they're so dedicated to me to being in church, helping people at church doing, and all the meetings being, you know, being the, the secretary of all the different groups that are going on, but they end up eating pizza every day, all their life and everything.

And they wonder why they're, you [00:24:00] know, 30, 40, 50 pounds overweight. And I say that because years ago, one of the I was doing a lot, the television and hosting a couple of different shows, and all of a sudden I I, I was invited to. And I hosted a show on one place.com and I think I may have been the first non pastors on one place.com talking about health and fitness and, and when I, when I present it to them, I go, the reason why I would like to be part of your show or your service is because I think that as I've learned the Christian community, they are by and large, one of the most unhealthiest group out there.

They kept on reading more and more and more about doing my research. This is what, 20 years ago, people go to church and they, they're in the evening and you know, they're ordering pizza because they're not gonna be at home making dinner and they're rushing. And so sometimes they're not eating as well as they could be and they're just eating some of the easy choices that are, that, you know, we all say they're okay to have.

I never take them out of my diet and everything, but if you have you having more of this [00:25:00] and, uh, of the stuff that's not as nutritious for your body, the stuff that you can always say, God made all of it and everything, but yeah, the fruits and the vegetables and, and, and the nuts and the seeds, that's more what's the, the human body designed to be eating.

Scott Maderer: So I've got a few questions that I like to ask all of my guests, but before I ask you those, is there anything else about the five steps that you'd like to share?

Dr. Len Lopez: Well, I, I just, if you get a chance, check it out. Like I said, if you're struggling with, in, with, in, in any part of that vicious cycle where you're not as, as, as happy or content or your career, your job or whatever, maybe it is, your health isn't where it's supposed to be.

Maybe your life like mine struggled for several years, right? Wasn't there My spiritual journey was, was. Just, you know, I think five Steps might be able to help you by just tracking how good you are feeding your body, mind, and spirit. And like my dad would always tell me, you know, Hey, you [00:26:00] gotta do the work, not me.

You know, so it, it's, it's, it's something you don't have to share with anybody. It's, it's a simple way you can download it on your phone if you're, even if you're a teenager, you know, but you could just look at it and see, Hey, am I doing. By the end of the week, you could say, oh, wow, I did really good on my fitness stuff, but I only did any, you know, one thing for my spiritual stuff, I only thought positively you know, one day and never, never.

And, and let me share this with Scott because this is the one thing I think that's really. Harming our country is that people are so distracted with, there's so much noise coming into their ears all the time that they never get that quiet time to sit and think and reflect. And so, you know, the, the, the cell phones, and I think the new law is now they're trying to restrict 'em in schools and whatnot, but when you can sit there and.

I, I, I watch my kids, if they're going to the bathroom, if they're going upstairs, they're just walking in from here to there. They'd have to grab their phone with them, and they just, [00:27:00] they need to kill that 30 seconds, one minute time to look at something. But in the olden days, which is really only 30 years ago, basically, when you didn't have all these distractions, you would sit here and that was the one or two or three minutes of silence, and you had a chance to really.

Be with yourself, talk to yourself and say, oh, yeah, I guess I have, I'm thinking I'm not, I'm not looking forward. I'm not seeing where I want to go in life. Where, where do I want to go in life and to, to, you know, as I always joke, you know, everybody knows what the land of milk and honey is, right? We all know it's a biblical.

Term, you know, where, where, where he, where God's land of milk and honey was. But I like to say that if you don't know where your land of milk and honey is, whatever that may be for you, whatever destination it is for you, not just spiritually, but whether your career in your family life, whatever, whatever your land of milk and honey is.

If you don't know, if you're not, don't know what it is, or you can't focus on what your land of milk and honey is, don't complain. If you land, if you arrive at the land of heartaches and [00:28:00] headaches figure out where you want to go. It takes some, some quiet time. It takes some in internal thinking to, you know, what do you want to be, what do you wanna do?

Where do you want to go? And once you plan, figured out what it is, like a sailor, once you know where you're going. You can get there. You know when the wind's in your face, you still know where you're going. When the wind's at your back, you can really get there, uh, much quicker. And so I, I think that's one of the headaches that that's out there.

So hopefully find steps will help make you start realizing that it's important to find where you want to go with you, with yourself and your life and everything.

Scott Maderer: So my brand is inspired stewardship, and I kind of run things through that lens of stewardship, and yet I've discovered that's one of those words that means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

So for you, when you hear the word stewardship, what does that word mean to you? Stewardship.

Dr. Len Lopez: I think I, for me, you know, hearing this, trying to guide yourself and others. [00:29:00] You know, trying to just pull them that way. And I think I, I've been a steward of trying to helping people get healthy and fit for the last 30 years.

And so I, and I stayed in my lane being, you know, a nutritionist, strength coach and all that stuff, but it was like. And whether it, maybe it's the right time, you know, to sit there and start saying, okay, let's start opening up and let's, let's help people also realize that it's important to get that spiritual connection.

Make sure that, are they moving in the right direction? So. If five steps can do anything, because I know there's a lot of people who are lost looking and been let down in their spiritual walk. And so five steps can help you start looking reading. I mean, gosh, you know, I've, I've gone cover to cover in five different Bibles in the last 30 years or so.

Just reading, just learning more, understanding more, and it's guided me. And so if what. What little knowledge I have, but hopefully the five steps to just help them start tracking what they're doing for [00:30:00] themselves and everything. And if it starts moving them closer, because you never know what it's gonna be when what, whatever they read, it's going to inspire them that I need to get to draw closer to him.

But you have to at least start moving in that direction a little bit and sometimes a lot of people just. They the, the, the cat videos on their phone is enough to distract them for the longest period of time. And the Xbox videos, I'll say that too, for males and.

Scott Maderer: So this is my favorite question that I like to ask everybody.

Imagine for a moment that I could invent this magic machine. And with this machine, I was able to take you from where you are today and transport you into the future, maybe 150, maybe 250 years. And through the power of this machine, you were able to look back and see your entire life, see all of the ripples, all of the connections, all of the impacts you've left.

What impact do you hope you've had in the world? Gosh, I,

Dr. Len Lopez: I'm hope I would hope that I can [00:31:00] be a inspiration to my, not just my family, but to others around me. I hope they could say, wow, that was someone who, who did it right, who was doing the thing that you're supposed to be doing, and this is why we still remember him.

So as long if I can make an impression on, on, you know, most importantly, you know, my children and everything, my kids and everything. But if that, if that can go to my children's children, like I said the scripture, you know, that would be fantastic. That that would be my, that's one of my little goals in life too.

Scott Maderer: So, what's on the roadmap? What's on your, uh, your roadmap as you continue to close out this year and start next year? Strong.

Dr. Len Lopez: Continue doing this, just trying to share the word and everything. I, I have my own, my, my little desires of wanting to take this. I don't want to be, well, I shouldn't say, I shouldn't say it that way.

I, I know we all know Billy Graham was the, did a great job of bringing more and more people to know him and everything. And if I can be, uh, just a little [00:32:00] bit of a, the seasoning that can help. And that journey for those who don't know him, and, and a health and fitness is a way to first open the eyes for some people.

Hopefully it can, that can be the door opener for me in that way.

Scott Maderer: Awesome. I. So you can find out more about Dr. Lynn Lopez over@drlynnlopez.com, and you can find the five steps information@drlynnlopez.com. Five. The number five steps a day. Of course, I'll have a link to that over in the show notes as well, Dr.

Lynn, anything else you'd like to share with the listener?

Dr. Len Lopez: No, just thank you. What you're doing, Scott. I think, uh, I, I, I like your show and I, I like the format of how your show goes and just, you know, blessings to you for all that you're doing to help help bring more good information to people that are, that are everybody's looking for some kind of help or some kind of answers out there.

So thanks for you for what you're doing. Thank you.[00:33:00]

Scott Maderer: Thanks so much for listening to the Inspired Stewardship Podcast. As a subscriber and listener, we challenge you to not just sit back and passively listen, but act on what you've heard and find a way to live your calling. If you enjoyed this episode. Please do us a favor. Go over to inspired stewardship.com/itunes.

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  • Why his 5 STEPS method came to be... 
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 If you're looking for the, the magic genie to help you, five steps isn't gonna do it. It's like anything else. You need to take some steps yourself. And so if you can at least take, take account of yourself and, and here's the analogy I like to share with people. Corporations, they, the way they track their successes, they'll track revenue, profits, and sales. - Dr. Len Lopez

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