Episode 1421: Interview with Jason Perry About Safety in the Christian Workplace

[00:00:00] Scott Maderer: Thanks for joining us on episode 1421 of the Inspired Stewardship Podcast.

[00:00:07] Jason Perry: I'm Jason Perry. I challenge you to invest in yourself, invest in others, and develop your influence and impact the world by using your time, your talent, and your treasure. To live out your calling, having the ability to bring light into the room is key.

[00:00:21] And one way to be inspired to do that is to listen to this, the Inspired Stewardship Podcast with my friend, Scott Maderer.

[00:00:35] Now in Christian America, they want to test the Lord rather than trusting the Lord. So they're like, Oh, God will protect us. And I have to go in and I have to disarm that whole fallacy. So God may protect you, but we shouldn't test him.

[00:00:55] Scott Maderer: Welcome, and thank you for joining us on the Inspired Stewardship Podcast. [00:01:00] If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to be, then you must learn to use your time, your talent, and your treasures for your true calling. In the Inspired Stewardship Podcast, you will learn to invest in yourself, your family, Invest in others and develop your influence so that you can impact the world.

[00:01:29] In today's podcast episode, I interview Jason Perry. I asked Jason about how he went from a SEAL and SWAT officer to focusing on helping train the Christian community on safety. I asked Jason how this work was influenced by his faith journey, and Jason also shares how the tension between self defense and the Christian walk isn't really there.

[00:01:51] I've got a new book coming out called Inspired Living, assembling the puzzle of your call by mastering your time, your talent, and your [00:02:00] treasures. You can find out more about it and sign up inspiredstewardship. com. Inspired Living. That's InspiredStewardship. com, Inspired Living. Jason Perry is a distinguished voice in both the Christian community and the realm of security and preparedness.

[00:02:21] As the founder of Trident Shield, a security training and consulting firm in Johnson City, Tennessee, he masterfully integrates biblical principles with practical safety training. Specializing in active shooter and workplace violence prevention, as well as personal safety and preparedness, Jason's approach is deeply rooted in real world experience and guided by his faith.

[00:02:43] His extensive background encompasses roles as a Navy SEAL, SWAT officer, Executive Protection Specialist, and Corporate Security Expert. Now as a pastor for Christian Warrior Mission, Jason's expertise in crisis management is enriched by his spiritual leadership, [00:03:00] offering a perspective that encompasses both physical readiness and spiritual insight.

[00:03:04] His methodology extends beyond conventional security tactics, focusing on fostering a spirit of vigilance and resilience that is deeply anchored in biblical wisdom. Welcome to the show, Jason!

[00:03:17] Jason Perry: I'm happy to be here.

[00:03:18] Scott Maderer: I am happy to have you. I shared a little bit in the intro about some of the work you do over at Trident Shield and working on doing that with what biblical principles as well as the kind of practical side, the theology, the spirit, and yet the practical side.

[00:03:38] But I always tell people that I always feel like whenever, and this happens to me too, I write my bio, I write my intro. Of course, I'm going to put all the shiny stuff in that.

[00:03:45] Jason Perry: Sure.

[00:03:46] Scott Maderer: But there's more to the story. So talk a little bit with the Lister about what's behind that. What brought you to this point where you're trying to do the practical work and focus on the [00:04:00] biblical side of it?

[00:04:02] Jason Perry: Yeah the market really. So originally, Trident Shield, which is my emergency preparedness, security, consulting, and training firm was a heavily active shooter in the beginning, right? I started it right after Sandy Hook, and I was working with Fortune 500 companies, right? Fortune 500 was my pipeline.

[00:04:26] I was referred by the number one insurance company in the world at that time. And so my client list was the who's who of corporate America. And I was known as the guy who could go to Berkeley, California and teach a very challenging subject to some people who may get easily offended. And as the same guy who could go to El Paso, Texas and train people who are not easily offended on some difficult content, have them receive it, have them enjoy it and take it on board.[00:05:00]

[00:05:01] After COVID hit, we took a 90 percent loss to revenue that year. Obviously, if there's no workplaces and there's no schools, there's no need to mitigate the risk and the dangers. During that time. The Lord really put it on my heart. I'm like, my whole industry is devastated right now. No one's getting ahead during this.

[00:05:20] So while during the, until this shakes out, I'm going to dedicate everything I can to the Lord. So I started serving God. And when I started serving God now I put my Christian faith, I became a, a Chick fil A, an outwardly Christian company. And the Fortune 500 didn't like that, right? The fact that I was pro life, that I was pro traditional marriage, that I was anti child mutilation certain things out there.

[00:05:54] I became, I got canceled. And and these are people that I [00:06:00] had great relationships before, massive projects, big initiatives and yeah, Jason you're too extreme to work with. And I said, let me understand this. And I don't mean to take this into a hyper political realm, but you're for abortion.

[00:06:15] I'm against abortion. And I'm willing to work with you, but you're not willing to work with me, even though we have differing issues. My goal is to save lives, right? Protect lives from losing innocence and protect lives from violence. And because of my religious views, you don't want to work with me anymore, even though that is still our goal, right?

[00:06:35] Our goal is that. So after having that happen a bunch to me, And having watching my as the active shooter is coming back on, as businesses are opening during COVID, I had a really big challenge. I had a massive challenge. I'm like, I, it's out of the closet. I am a Christian conservative. And so what do I do now [00:07:00] when corporate America may or may not want to work with me?

[00:07:02] So I said, I'm going to start working. with people who are not going to cancel me because they're my tribe. So I started going after Christian organizations classical Christian schools, churches, outwardly Christian faith forward companies that shared nonprofits that were on the other side of the issues of ones that I was getting canceled on.

[00:07:27] And that enabled me, it presented an opportunity to make this more than about mitigating. physical risk. And then I was able to start mitigating spiritual risk or lifestyle risk. And when I was able to fold that in, it became a way more incredible product where I was empowering people who thought they, because of their religion, they couldn't defend kindergartners.

[00:07:59] And I'm like, [00:08:00] not only can you do that, You are required to do. You're the shepherd of that flock. You become the guardian of these five year olds, six year olds, seven year olds, when a parent turns them over to you, that's now your flock. And the shepherd's job is to protect the flock from the wolves, from the lions and watching that happen and watching And giving them solutions on how to deal with a very serious threat before they just thought I'm just going to jump in front of it of the attacker.

[00:08:32] And that'll be the end of me, but I did what I could now watching them actually have hope and having them watching them formulate plans and knowing that they had a way out of this. That really changed everything. Like I've trained Navy SEALs. I've trained special, other special forces around the world, SWAT teams as a cop.

[00:08:50] I've trained elite corporate America, but nothing was as good as being able to get up there, not hide my [00:09:00] faith, be able to share my faith and kind of roll it into a discipling. And a security training product. And when I walked off my first stage after doing that, I'm like I'm never going back.

[00:09:14] Instead of walking on eggshells the whole show, the whole training session, right? And trying to see who am I offending this person and that. When you share a worldview, you really can move the chain further down. the field. And it was the most incredible experience I've had as a trainer.

[00:09:32] It's

[00:09:34] Scott Maderer: a long winded answer. No, that's perfect. And one of the things that I've seen happen and it's something that we were talking before we started recording and it's something that I. tried to bring about in my audience is the, because I've seen cancels on both sides, right?

[00:09:50] It you're too liberal to come here. So we can't be talk to you or you're too conservative to come here. So we can't talk to you or your views don't agree with my [00:10:00] views. So therefore I can't be friends with you. And it's interesting to me how often, as humans, we focus on finding the things that are different, instead of trying to find the things that are in common it's because again, even like what you're talking about, even if you politically didn't agree with that corporate culture, the idea of corporate culture.

[00:10:22] workplace safety. They agreed with you on that issue. That was the part that they had in common.

[00:10:27] Jason Perry: One of my clients was literally one of the top funders of that, of the movement I disagreed with. But I and we sat down as a company and there were people in my company who were like I don't want to I don't think we should take them.

[00:10:42] And I'm like, no. Our job is to protect lives. We're going to protect lives, right? That's what we're going to do. The ones that are out of the womb are just as important as the ones that are in the womb, right? So we're going to protect. They don't deserve to have violence visited upon them. So I was willing to do that.

[00:10:59] And [00:11:00] and then to have somebody who was not that client that client was happy with our content and happy that we were willing to take them on and protect them. It was somebody far else who was just worried of offending their base. And unfortunately we can't disagree as adults in America anymore and get along.

[00:11:18] With social media. Everyone knows exactly where everyone stands. I I'm 51. How old are you?

[00:11:26] Scott Maderer: I'm 56. Okay. So we, when we grew up, we didn't know how people voted. I remember never asked. It wasn't even polite to ask the question. It was I didn't know what people thought up and down my street and I knew back in the day.

[00:11:42] Jason Perry: We knew who our neighbors were. We knew who lived a street away. I knew everybody within a four block radius, which is crazy because now we don't even know who lives across the street and down a house, right? That's where we really come. But now with social media. Everyone's got a microphone [00:12:00] and everyone's blasting what they think, and it's really it's really brought some friction and tension into the business world that most people don't have, didn't have to deal with in the past.

[00:12:11] Scott Maderer: And the only caveat I would put on that I've noticed is people will see one piece of information. And from that, they'll extrapolate a whole mess of things that, Oh, you voted for that candidate. Therefore you must believe X, Y, Z W and it's wait, no, wait, no, some of those things, I believe in some of those I don't you, you may or may not actually fit the quote, whole package, but that's what we also tend to do that.

[00:12:40] We ascribe even more information than we actually have from limited information.

[00:12:45] Jason Perry: Yeah, no, and that's really a clear point. And basically people have become one and two issue voters. Yep. And and with those single one or two issue [00:13:00] voters there's a definitive line. Do you support? My side on this, or do you not support my side on this?

[00:13:06] Us versus them. Yeah. And that, that's really what it's come down to. And that's the state of America today. So because of that, because of the one-sided canceling that I was having on that, I had to shift who I worked for. And by doing that I'm infinitely happier, I'll tell you that. and but some people can't do that.

[00:13:33] So again it's, you got to do what you got to do to feed your family and stay true to your beliefs. And and I think that's really important,

[00:13:44] Scott Maderer: Talking a little bit about your faith journey backing up even before you made this decision how would you describe your faith journey and how it's affected what you do?

[00:13:56] Jason Perry: Oh boy, that's a big one. Yeah. So I was an atheist for 37 [00:14:00] years and I was absolutely miserable. I tried plugging out I believe that everyone has a God shaped hole in the center of their chest. And either God fills it or the world fills it. And I tried putting. Everything I could in that hole to fill that hole.

[00:14:19] And until I found Jesus, I'd never felt whole. Once I got healed and and found Christ, everything changed about my life. It wasn't all overnight. I still tried to walk with one foot, as we Christians would say, one foot in the world and one foot with the cross. And it was tearing me in half.

[00:14:42] So again, when this happened, it allowed me to step out of that and into alignment 100 percent with my Christian beliefs. And and again it's changed everything. Absolutely everything I do now. is for the kingdom of Christ. [00:15:00] I'm a pastor. I run a ministry. I have a farm where we grow we have cattle, hogs, chickens, where we used to feed our congregation and community.

[00:15:11] And and then of course, Trident Shield, we're protecting Christian organ. We protect everyone, but now we've really hyper focused our niche, which is the Christian community.

[00:15:27] Scott Maderer: How do you see that you referenced earlier that tension that some people of faith feel about the kindergarten teacher that's like how do I protect these kids and yet also live out my Christian values.

[00:15:41] And I think we have that sometimes even. in our families the man wanting to be a protector and a provider and yet also wanting to be kind or wanting to describe and love others like we're called to do and all of that. How do you see that tension playing out [00:16:00] in families and in the organizations that you work with?

[00:16:04] Jason Perry: There, there shouldn't be attention, right? There's a, again, anytime when you're talking about the Bibles, there's a lot of opinions and a lot of theories and a lot of positions that run counter to one another, right? That some would say. You know run counter to one another. You have Calvinists and Armenians.

[00:16:24] You have young earthers and older. There's all different types of different beliefs and faith. The model is Jesus Christ. Okay. Now, when G and you got to take Jesus Christ, not only when he was here during his earthly ministry, but who he was throughout the entire Bible, too many Christians only want to focus on the last third of the Bible, and they don't want to consider the first two thirds of the Bible which is when you

[00:16:58] Just for [00:17:00] example, my study Bible here, the New Testament begins.

[00:17:04] Let's see here. So right there. So it's about 2 3rd, right? And when you look at it in its entirety, you're not cherry pick individual things. You'll see that unfortunately, conflict and warfare and and so many other things that are part of this fallen world have always been there since the since we got kicked out of the Garden of Eden, right?

[00:17:36] With shortly thereafter after the Garden of Eden we go from that to Cain and Abel, the first murderer, to, to Tubal Cain, who is like the mass murder, first mass murderer, right? 77 people I'll kill instead of just seven, right? For vengeance on himself. And again, because of that [00:18:00] When you take the whole Bible into context, you'll see always the need for guardians.

[00:18:05] So a lot of people don't realize this, but who in the New Testament was the most praised person's faith in all the New Testament? I won't put you on the spot. It's the blood soaked centurion who where Jesus Christ marveled at his faith. Okay, so there's God in the flesh marveling at someone's faith who is a blood soaked centurion.

[00:18:29] Gentile. Okay. So another point, who was the first Gentile saved? Another blood soaked centurion named Cornelius, who was a special forces centurion from the Italian cohort. Who was a man after God's own heart? Who did he love most? David, who was what? A warrior, right? Again, why is that? Because in the Bible it says there is no greater love than this, to lay one's [00:19:00] life down for one's friends, okay?

[00:19:03] The soldier And the law enforcement officer and other warriors out there do it for people who hate them, who don't like them. Who does that sound like? Christ, right? So we risk all to protect others. Now, As a shepherd, you look at a flock. This is a great example. People don't think of a shepherd as a warrior, but you had to protect it from other people stealing your sheep.

[00:19:31] You had to protect it from wildlife, wolves, lions, et cetera, et cetera. And then what did you do when you weren't protecting? You were loving and caring, feeding and nurturing and pouring into them. So it's a complete identity, right? It's a complete identity. You can't just sheer off one side or sheer off the other.

[00:19:50] It can't all just be about all the it can't all just be about, I'm just going to be a nice guy, right? If you're a nice guy and you're [00:20:00] watching someone rape your wife because you don't want to offend them you're not being a very nice guy to your wife, right? Or you're not if somebody's trying to corrupt your kid and you're letting them do it because you don't want to risk offending them guess what?

[00:20:12] You're. You're not being very kind to your kid. So the key thing that we have to do, in my opinion which we all have those is I use this as the great referee this is the English Standard Version Bible, but the Bible I've got about 30 of them around here. Is I use that as my mediator or me and my wife have conflict.

[00:20:38] She brings the Bible to me and shows me where I'm screwing up. I bring the Bible to her screwing up. Now the referee is God and not me or her. And and that is really useful, particularly in friendship, particularly in business when you're dealing. Like with another Christian, like I say, Hey, listen we agreed to this.

[00:20:56] I know you're a fellow believer what do [00:21:00] and bring it before God. So that kind of changes the whole part. It changes everything. Now, unfortunately, to get back to your original question, which is how do you be protector and how do you be lover and nurture at the same time and it's.

[00:21:22] Easily done because God made us that way. God made us the protector of the garden. We failed. We let in the serpent, right? So again, it's about not just focusing too often in the church day. We say God is love. God is love. And then the Bible says God is love. God is first among many things.

[00:21:44] holy holy. That's his primary attribute. It's holy, which means separate from us, completely different than us. So we have to be all aspects of God. There you go. Model all aspects. So

[00:21:58] Scott Maderer: When [00:22:00] you you go in and you're working with people physically in the room kind of thing, what are some of the biggest, I don't want to say mistakes, cause that's really the wrong word, but what are some of the biggest challenges that you think we face today?

[00:22:22] When it comes to all of those things, workplace safety, whether it's at a church I'm in a rural church in the middle of nowhere we have that and we have a safety team now and we have cameras and we have all of those things that it didn't seem necessary 20 years ago or 30 years ago but seem really necessary today.

[00:22:42] What are some of the biggest challenges you think we're facing today?

[00:22:46] Jason Perry: So if you're talking about an organization what in the active shooter space, what they do it's really understanding the risks appropriately. If I want to [00:23:00] shut down a church, I don't have to shut down a church with an active shooter, right?

[00:23:04] I can go in there, And protest the church cause them to make bad decisions for them to go hands on and I can sue them into extinction, right? So right now, everybody wants to be a cowboy in the church security industry. Everybody wants to think that their secret service and that they're in there doing whatever and many of them have next to no training.

[00:23:25] And I admire their, they're wanting to be a part of the solution, but they really need to have responsible training done. So they don't hurt the 6 year old standing next to the bad guy. So the first part is getting over, particularly in Christian communities. So actually there's, I'll go through two mindsets, secular America versus Christian America, secular America thinks that there's, if they're going to train someone, it's going to scare them.

[00:23:53] And so they don't want to scare their people. So they don't train. The people are already scaled scared. Every time [00:24:00] one of these things happens on the news, which is weekly or try weekly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone says, Oh, my God, if that happened here, X, Y, and Z, and they have a scenario that plays out in their head, which is horrific.

[00:24:13] Okay, so they're already worried about it, particularly if they're in a school or in an environment where this has happened before or happens frequently in their industry. Not training them is the biggest problem for that, right? It's sitting there saying choosing a partner who is there are bad partners out there So one of the original first to market people really thought the way to train people was to scare The heck out of them and do shock and awe training which just traumatized a lot of people.

[00:24:43] That's not what We do shut down when there is actual emergency So we do what's called empowerment we do everything is based from an empowerment situation. We don't do shock and awe. We inject a lot. Like our training session is a good time. It's [00:25:00] wait, it's an active shooter. No it's a good time because everything you're learning in that is going to go far beyond the corporate footprint and is going to go out there and make you safer at the mall, at a football game, at a concert at the grocery store.

[00:25:15] And and we do it in teaching in such a way that there is build tension, deflate with comedy, build tension, deflate. Everyone's smiling. Everyone's laughing. Everyone's having a good time because that is the best way to learn, right? If everyone's in their white, not because You'll see people come in because they've been scarred in the past and they're leaning back in the chair and they're white knuckled and they're closed off and they're doing all this stuff and that's why we are training is so much longer than our competitors because we spend a lot of time using emotional intelligence to let people know, Hey, we're doing this because we care about you, right?

[00:25:50] And if anything should ever be, the odds of an active shooter happening to you are very small. But the odds of violence happening to you or someone you care about is certain [00:26:00] and take the things you learn about this and apply it in those areas and one hopefully you'll be able to avoid it, or at least or mitigate it.

[00:26:07] And that's what we train people to do now. And now in Christian America, they want to test the Lord rather than trusting the Lord. So they're like, Oh, God will protect us and I have to go in and I have to disarm that whole fallacy. God may protect you. We shouldn't test him. Jesus himself doesn't, it wouldn't test God when Satan said, jump off the from here and the angels will catch you or whatever.

[00:26:36] So what I say, the difference between trusting and testing is if you are, yeah. trusting the Lord, and you want to go parachuting. You go and you buy the parachute for your appropriate size. You go and you take training, okay? Then you pack your chute to the best of your ability, you go up in a plane, you jump out, you do everything you're trying to do, and you ask God to bless it.

[00:26:58] Hey, I didn't get hit by a [00:27:00] plane, I didn't hit power lines I didn't do all these other things. God, that is trusting the Lord, okay? Testing the Lord is going up in a plane and jumping out without a parachute and saying, God save me. And that's how far too many people go around life today.

[00:27:14] Scott Maderer: And again, it's, it is that, so it's a little bit of the stick your head in the sand mentality of it, it'll be, and again, like I said, I'm in a small rural church that at first glance you would think, Oh yeah, there's no reason for them to worry about it. And yet,

[00:27:31] Jason Perry: Those are places where you go.

[00:27:33] Oh no, we need to worry

[00:27:34] Scott Maderer: about it. It could happen here. If I wanted to do be successful on an active shooter, I would go to a rural church because they have a small police department. Their response time is way longer. There are places where the response time is an hour. Yeah. I can do a lot of damage in an hour and be off to the next target.

[00:27:52] Jason Perry: Yeah. Again, we've been blessed in this

[00:27:57] Scott Maderer: false sense of security that isn't really there [00:28:00] sometimes. Yes.

[00:28:00] Jason Perry: And we've been blessed with a bunch of pretty weak, incompetent shooters, right? It's not like we got a SEAL team operator out there doing this stuff.

[00:28:11] Scott Maderer: And when that does happen, it tends to be a much larger footprint when it

[00:28:16] Jason Perry: does happen.

[00:28:17] It'll be far worse. And that's why it really is a, I believe, protection from God that we haven't had anything like that. When you think 22 veterans kill themselves every day, they're already killing themselves to think that some of them. wouldn't want to make a statement. It's just remarkable.

[00:28:34] Scott Maderer: I remind people all the time that there isn't actually an entrance exam for becoming a criminal. And we're very fortunate that is true because yes many criminals are becoming a criminal because that's all they can do. Not all. There are smart ones too, but it's more common. And here's something that is different that's evolved from when we were grew up to what today.

[00:28:56] Jason Perry: So before, if you wanted to commit a crime, you typically had to [00:29:00] go somewhere to do it. You want to get access to drugs. You had to go into a shady part of town make the drug deal. If you wanted to go hurt something or prostitution or any of these other things, you had to go someplace, right?

[00:29:13] Now you're like three bad decisions for committing a felony on your cell phone at any point. And that you can bring it right into the bedroom, so to speak. Yeah, exactly. So there's a lot of risk out there that we have to responsibly manage, particularly because we have a supercomputer on a lot of our kids nightstand.

[00:29:34] Scott Maderer: And connections are much easier today. Again, before the show, we were talking about I've time zones and all of those things. I've had clients in 15 countries, 16 countries and I work in the middle of nowhere and yet I can talk to people all over the world. I can't recall

[00:29:55] Jason Perry: where exactly you are again.

[00:29:56] Where

[00:29:57] Scott Maderer: I am in South Texas, close to San [00:30:00] Antonio, but I'm over an hour from Everything. I live out in the country I drive an hour to go to the grocery store. I'm actually going to be, like I said, I think I'm going to be in South Southwest, mainly South of San Antonio. So I'd love to grab a steak with you since it's one of the few good places you can get a steak.

[00:30:20] Absolutely. We have some good steak here. That's for sure. So I've got a few questions. I like to ask all of my guests, Jason, but before I go there, is there anything else about the work you do or the journey you've been on that you want to share with the listener?

[00:30:33] Jason Perry: Yeah I've just recently wrapped up several webinars, seminars on risk in 2024.

[00:30:42] Unfortunately, because of the political cycle and the political realities we're in, 2024 has the probability as a risk manager to be A pretty dangerous year, right? We know that racial violence escalates during this, where if we look at [00:31:00] 2020 you roll into that, into how the sides, the political allies tend to drive everyone into their corners the closer we get to November.

[00:31:11] And when that happens, people who are on the stressed or on the afraid edges of society tend to act irrationally. And so I really encourage people to look at the realities of the news in your area and make sound decisions. Invest in some training from me or somebody else. I don't care who you go to get some training to protect your family, protect your kids.

[00:31:35] The date rape drugs that are out now, just for kids, a friend of mine went to a country concert festival and he's got. Very attractive drinking age daughters and they went and they got a round of beers for him and his wife and his daughters and the people that were there and he got the spike drink and he lost 12 hours off of one beer that was meant for one of his daughters.

[00:31:57] Okay, so again. [00:32:00] It's a far different world with fentanyl and all these other drugs that are out there. There's no more experimentation. When we grew up, you take a puff of a joint, you're fine. You take a puff of a joint now laced with fentanyl, you never wake up. And the person who does CPR on you does, that's how bad this stuff is. So the margin of error that we had in our generation is completely gone. So really the only way to do this, I'm not telling you to lock yourself in your room and live a paranoid, scared, schizophrenic life. I'm telling you to go out and experience life, but you have to be responsible.

[00:32:37] You have to always be aware of your surroundings. You have to always have a plan. Okay. And always be ready to defend yourself. It doesn't take long on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter to watch innocent people getting attacked all day long, and they're all clueless. So don't be that victim. Be the victor.

[00:32:54] Scott Maderer: Unfortunately it's even just the simple situational awareness of knowing what's going around [00:33:00] you. It. It's less prevalent today because more people are you got your ear pods in and you're listening to whatever and all of the other things that can distract us from even just knowing what's going on right around us.

[00:33:13] I see people all the time that I can walk right up to them to say something to them and they never even knew I was coming. And what if I had bad intentions? Yeah, I

[00:33:22] Jason Perry: used to know a stat and I'm sorry I don't, I didn't look at it before here. But the amount of people who walk into traffic while looking on their cell phone.

[00:33:30] in cities all across America. Astronomical. To the thousands. Yeah. Thousands of people who die from being distracted while walking around the cell phone.

[00:33:37] Scott Maderer: Yeah. Just distracted. And I've done it too. Again, and I'm actually relatively aware and I've done it too, where I get distracted by something that's going on and walk into a pole, so to speak, or whatever it's easy to do.

[00:33:51] So My brand is Inspired Stewardship, and I run things through that lens of stewardship, and yet that's one of those words that I've discovered means a lot of different [00:34:00] things to a lot of different people. So when you hear the word stewardship, what does that word mean to you?

[00:34:06] Jason Perry: Stewardship, again, is You know, it goes back to the flock.

[00:34:11] You're being responsible with what God has blessed you with your whether it's your wealth and your war chest, as I would call it to be used for the kingdom whether it be the kids that you were entrusted with, that you were blessed to have your relationship with your wife your friendships, you have to be a good steward of those, right?

[00:34:32] And so steward is again, goes directly back to being the shepherd it's just another word for shepherd or different profession, right? Steward would be more governmental if you were to look at it, or estate type things if if you looked at the traditional definition of steward, I would imagine where and then flock, which is bring it to farming, right?

[00:34:57] Or herdsmen or whatever animal [00:35:00] husbandry.

[00:35:01] Scott Maderer: So this is my favorite question that I like to ask everybody. Imagine for a minute that I invented this magic machine, and with the power of that machine, I was able to pluck you from where you are today and transport you into the future, maybe 150, maybe 250 years.

[00:35:19] But through the power of this machine, you were able to look back and see your entire life, see all of the connections, all of the ripples, all of the impacts you've left behind. What impact do you hope you've left in the world?

[00:35:31] Jason Perry: That's an easy one for a Christian that I led as many people as I possibly could to Jesus Christ.

[00:35:37] And then I passed on my Christian identity to my children and family members. That I had an impact for the kingdom.

[00:35:48] Scott Maderer: So what's coming next? What's on the roadmap for the rest of this year?

[00:35:52] Jason Perry: Over the rest of this year, we've got I'm speaking at the ACCS conference in Georgia on June [00:36:00] 23rd.

[00:36:01] That's the Association of Classical Christian Schools. I'm one of those keynote speakers there on this very, on the subject of protecting schools. Training, a lot of Christian schools, Christian organizations. I'm also doing some security work down around the border that's in San Antonio, south of San Antonio, around the border.

[00:36:27] So I've got a busy year as well as I'm on. I'm on the air now, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday nine o'clock doing my Christian warrior mission podcast. That's on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, not Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Rumble, LinkedIn. And there it is a Christian fellowship show where we focus on five things, faith, Making that first, it's an accountability group.

[00:36:56] Family, how to pour into our family members, whether it [00:37:00] be your wife, your kid, your, the lady at Walmart, your neighbor. Fitness, becoming as healthy as we possibly can be, being a good vessel of the Holy Spirit. Fundamentals, which is your skill set, which is what makes you valuable to yourself, your family, and your community.

[00:37:15] And finances, are you responsibly managing your war chest, which is what you're blessed with to, are you using it all to chase stuff or are you actually making a difference in people's life, difference in people's lives?

[00:37:27] Scott Maderer: And you can find out more about Jason Perry over at christianlawyermission. org.

[00:37:33] Of course, I'll have a link to that over in the show notes as well. Jason, anything else you'd like to share with the listener?

[00:37:39] Jason Perry: No, just that Jesus loves them. And if you, if there's ever any questions I can answer, you can find me on every every social media platform. Twitter is Pastor Seal Cop.

[00:37:52] Everything else is Christian Warrior Mission.

[00:37:55] Scott Maderer: Awesome. Thanks so much.

[00:37:57] Jason Perry: Thank you. It's been an honor to be here.[00:38:00]

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