Episode 1473: Interview with Craig Dehut About Using Media to Remove Barriers Between People and Faith

[00:00:00] Scott Maderer: Thanks for joining us on episode 1473 of the Inspired Stewardship Podcast.

[00:00:07] Craig Dehut: I'm Craig Dehut I challenge you to invest in yourself, invest in others, develop your influence, and impact the world by using your time, your talent, and your treasure to live out your calling. Having the ability to find out what is real in the Bible is key.

[00:00:27] And one way to be inspired to do that is to listen to this. The Inspired Stewardship Podcast with my friend, Scott Maderer. I

[00:00:43] was able to realize that I could help create stories that, maybe not all of them are, you know, spiritually driven or faith based stories, but they are intended to, to, Help people to better people after consuming that content. [00:01:00] And so that was a journey that started probably when I was 13 or 14.

[00:01:04] Scott Maderer: Welcome and thank you for joining us on the Inspired Stewardship Podcast.

[00:01:09] If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to be, then you must learn to use your time, your talent, and your treasures for your true calling. In the Inspired Stewardship Podcast, you will learn to invest in yourself, Invest in others and develop your influence so that you can impact the world.

[00:01:38] In this podcast episode, I interview Craig D. Hutt. I asked Craig about his work in faith based video production and what brought him here at this point. Craig also shares why discovering his calling was a journey he went through, and Craig shares why he's found media and video to be so effective in communicating a faith message.

[00:01:59] I've got a new [00:02:00] book coming out called Inspired Living, assembling the puzzle of your call by mastering your time, your talent, and your treasures. You can find out more about it and sign up inspiredstewardship. com, Inspired Living. That's InspiredStewardship. com, Inspired Living. Craig is a seasoned freelance video producer with over 15 years of experience.

[00:02:27] Back in 2015, he co founded Appian Media alongside his business partner, Stuart Peck. They were driven by a shared concern for the lack of engaging biblical media for young people. Their vision was to bridge the gap between the youth and Bible study through professionally produced, accurate, and free content.

[00:02:46] Appian Media has since produced multiple award winning series, podcasts, workbooks, and children's videos reaching millions worldwide. What sets Appian Media apart is their three pronged approach. Accuracy, professional [00:03:00] production, and free accessibility. While many organizations may offer two of these elements, Appian Media stands out as one of the few providing all three.

[00:03:09] This commitment reflects their mission to remove barriers between people and the gospel. Welcome to the show, Craig!

[00:03:16] Craig Dehut: Hey, thanks for having me.

[00:03:17] Scott Maderer: Absolutely. I'm glad to have you here. So I talked a little bit in the intro about some of the work you've done as a freelance video producer, working, doing, the faith based or biblical documentaries and all of that.

[00:03:33] But I also know that when we talk about things in an intro, I always talk to tell people it's like doing an Instagram photo. You always frame it a certain way, right? Talk a little bit about, what's the story behind the story? What? Made you go on this particular journey in your life.

[00:03:50] Craig Dehut: Sure. Everyone should know that everything on my Instagram is perfectly authentic and not manufactured. Never framed?

[00:03:56] Scott Maderer: No, yeah. So you take the picture in front of the dirty laundry, [00:04:00] right? That's exactly right. Yeah,

[00:04:01] Craig Dehut: that's real. Which is probably why I posted three times last year. Yeah, what got me started on this journey?

[00:04:06] Man, how far back do you want to go? I think it, it just Creating media and creating video and being artistic. Really, I got that from my mom and from several of my siblings. She was an artist and my siblings and I would spend just countless hours like drawing comic books and writing stories.

[00:04:24] And eventually someone gifted us an old camcorder. That we would run around in the backyard and make ridiculous things that thankfully have all been scrubbed from the internet that no one can see anymore. But it really lit a fire in me that I realized that video production, specifically storytelling, allowed me to take several of my interests and put them all into one.

[00:04:45] So I'm a tech nerd geek. Like I like computers and technology. I like writing stories. I like creating art. And so video production has allowed me to combine all of those things together. And along with my faith which is obviously [00:05:00] very important to me was able to realize that I could help create stories that maybe not all of them are, spiritually driven or faith based stories, but they are intended to, to help people, to better people after consuming that content.

[00:05:16] And so that was a journey that started probably when I was 13 or 14, when I first thought I might actually. Mix money with this. I could see myself doing this as a career and that took me through creating a lot of short films myself, going to film school, working in news working for video production companies, and now just working for myself as a freelancer.

[00:05:39] Scott Maderer: A lot of times, one of the things that I try to dive into or separate for folks is at least from my point of view, and I'd like to hear your take on this, I think a lot of times we equate what we do, quote, to get paid or career with. That has to be our calling, what we're called by God to do, [00:06:00] and I think sometimes there's overlap there, but I also still think at the core, they're different in a way, yes. So how do you see as the overlap between, Hey, I could get paid doing this. And, wait a minute, I'm uniquely designed to do this. The calling part.

[00:06:17] Craig Dehut: Great question. Because so I'm about to turn 40, and I've told my wife I'm due for a midlife crisis. This is when I start questioning all of the things and, doing something completely different.

[00:06:28] Ten years from now, is this what I'm going to be doing? I don't know. Is it gonna look exactly like this? I'm fairly confident that it won't. What is my calling? And it's a great question. It's a profound question. And it's I'd say it's different for everyone, but for those of us who have faith in Christ, it's actually the same for everyone.

[00:06:47] We are called to make disciples. And some people, their calling is, at least in that moment of their life, it is to disciple their own children. Their, maybe stay at home moms, that's their [00:07:00] calling, and these are their, these are the people that they're working with, their children. For me right now, I'm blessed with the work that we're doing with Appian Media to intersect my, secular work, my career into something that I believe is part of our calling, which is to get people to know and appreciate the Bible better and come to appreciate and have a deeper relationship with God.

[00:07:21] But 10 years from now, I might be a salesman. person. I might be a, and that doesn't mean that I've abandoned my calling. It doesn't mean that suddenly I'm less used to, useful to God. And that's something I've personally struggled with. That's something that I think many of us do where, my grandfather worked in a cannery.

[00:07:39] For 40, 50 years, that was what he did and it's what put food on the table for his family. I don't view that as any less valuable. That's what he did. That's what he could do. He was apparently good at it and it provided the needs for his family. And God can use situations like that.

[00:07:58] It's exciting [00:08:00] though, when what you love to do also happens to pay you and it's something that, can be beneficial in, in God's kingdom.

[00:08:10] Scott Maderer: So we're talking a lot about faith and you mentioned early on that, that, there was some overlap between your faith also putting you in this direction and part of the storytelling you do, whether it's explicitly quote faith based or whether it's, broader than that, but still has that component.

[00:08:29] What do you, what would you share about your faith journey and how that's informed what you do and how you do it versus, and at all points, not just today, when you have more control and you're doing it yourself, but when you work for corporate, when you did the other things, how did your faith connect back to how you were living your life and what you were doing and vice versa?

[00:08:51] Craig Dehut: Again, how far back do you want to go? So I grew up in a Christian home. My father is an evangelist. He currently preaches in Louisville, Kentucky. So I was familiar with [00:09:00] the Bible, grew up with it, learning it, loving it. And I became a Christian fairly early when I was about 12 years old.

[00:09:06] I was baptized into Christ and started my walk with Christ. And that was, Motivated I think at that young age due to at 10 years old, I was diagnosed with type one diabetes and as a 10 year old, I'm having to wrestle with questions that typically we don't start asking ourselves until we get older.

[00:09:26] What's going to happen to me after I die? Is this life all there is? Why do hard things happen to people? Those were the questions that this 10 year old kid was wrestling with. And and at 10 years old I found that God provides the answers to those questions, and provides hope and comfort even when life is really hard.

[00:09:45] And that has influenced It has motivated my decision as far as where I went to school and how I interacted when I was in college. The debates that I would get into with my professors as far as whether God was real or not and whether Christianity was [00:10:00] just a hoax meant to keep the populace under control.

[00:10:02] And it has intersected when I, worked in television news and. Had a perspective of life and power and people that was different than at least what was being pushed through most of the media. And having to make decisions along the way of, is, if this is important, if this is true, am I going to stand up for it?

[00:10:25] And eventually just came to the realization that I can better live out my calling. I I can better live out what I think I've been given talents to do and to do if I do that myself. as a freelancer, I don't have to then push back. Maybe when I'm assigned a project, I don't feel comfortable with or put on the crew of a movie that I would never watch.

[00:10:49] That I didn't have to keep having those conflicts that I could decide what stories were worth sharing and what would be beneficial with people.

[00:10:58] Scott Maderer: So why did you [00:11:00] pick not in terms of, your interest in the tech and all of that, but why is. What you do in terms of media, video, that kind of thing.

[00:11:12] Why do you think that's an important way or has value to help people re engage? with the Bible.

[00:11:20] Craig Dehut: Media is incredibly powerful. It has a power that I think most of us don't take time to really truly consider. I knew it before going to school, but certainly understood it while I was there. Our professors, they understood that many of us were getting into the field because we wanted to entertain people.

[00:11:38] And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but they didn't simply call us entertainers. They actually called us culture changers. And several of the students would balk at that and go, No, look, we're just making, we just want to make an action movie out here. And then they said, okay, but understand who would you let talk [00:12:00] to you for two hours at a time?

[00:12:02] Not with you. It's not a conversation. But who would you just let talk at you for two hours at a time? I don't know about you. I've never sat and listened to any president for that long. Any debate, any preacher. What sermon would you sit through for two hours? Most of us would start checking our watch.

[00:12:19] And yet, when we go to a theater, we sit in a theater, and if it's a Marvel movie, it's three hours long, we open our brains, and we let them talk to us, and communicate messages. And there's no back and forth, there's no rebuttal, it's just And so I came to realize especially stepping out of that school and then going into news, you're talking two or three minute stories were enough to influence the way people perceived the world, perceived humanity.

[00:12:52] Thought about the future, thought about morals, all of that's happening based on what we consume and it's powerful [00:13:00] and I know it's tempting. I certainly went through a period of time where it's frightening and it's frustrating and it gets you angry. Like, how could people do this? And isn't that a shame?

[00:13:08] And but I actually found it was more productive to go, okay, yeah. Let's acknowledge it's powerful. Let's acknowledge that it has influence. We can change people's minds and In many ways they're being changed in ways that I don't think are beneficial But instead of bemoaning that what can we use what can we do to use the tool to change people's minds and help encourage?

[00:13:31] good morals and help them understand God better and treat people better and Think of the future as not a frightening terrifying You know, depressing thing, but as a hopeful thing, what can we do to better the future? And I thought originally that it was major motion pictures. I wanted to do feature films.

[00:13:50] I wanted to be the next, Steven Spielberg. I wanted to write and direct feature films and have still not been given that opportunity, but maybe after my midlife crisis I'll end up doing [00:14:00] that.

[00:14:00] Scott Maderer: It requires you to buy a Corvette first.

[00:14:03] Craig Dehut: Yeah. And move to California. And I just don't really want to do that.

[00:14:06] I come from the West coast. Like I, I grew up in Oregon and I just, I love the West coast. It's a nice place. to visit.

[00:14:13] Scott Maderer: Oh, but Oregon and

[00:14:14] Craig Dehut: around

[00:14:15] Scott Maderer: the Hollywood area are very different. Yeah.

[00:14:19] Craig Dehut: And I love people like I have family back in Oregon. I have friends and family back in Oregon and I'm certainly not disrespecting either of those in either of those States, but the industry that exists in Hollywood specifically was not something I was interested in participating in.

[00:14:35] It's too big of a machine that I didn't want to fight against. So instead. I've tried documentary and I think that has proven very effective. There's been an explosion of interest in those types of films that it used to be 30, 40 years ago. People wouldn't go to the theaters to watch a documentary, but now they are.

[00:14:52] And that's really cool. And so that's my hope. Recognizing the power, not spending or wasting time bemoaning the fact that it is [00:15:00] powerful and instead saying, look, the tool itself is not inherently evil. How can we use it to better people with it? And that's what I'm trying to do.

[00:15:08] Scott Maderer: And why do you focus on documentaries?

[00:15:11] Not, I assume it's not just because people are interested in them but why did you go down that road? Sure.

[00:15:17] Craig Dehut: I still have a, an interest, and there are still short film ideas that, that bounce around up here that I've even written down and shot a few, but not to say that I would never go back to that, but something that I love about documentary is I don't need to cast a character to make a believable, case for you.

[00:15:36] You've got to believe this person is really no I just need to find interesting people. And they're everywhere. And I need to just find interesting stories. It's one of the things I loved working in news where I worked in news part time, but I actually worked at a coffee shop the other time.

[00:15:51] And so in the morning I would interact with people and basically just ask them like, what are you guys up to today? What's going on? What's happening in town and realize there's all [00:16:00] these stories. And then I would go and work at my news job and pursue some of those stories. That real life is actually quite fascinating and real people have stories that should be shared and we'd be benefited by by knowing people better and appreciating the things that they've gone through, the things that they've learned.

[00:16:17] And when it comes to what we do with Appian Media, going overseas to actually interview people who are living there. interview the historians and the archaeologists and the locals who are living and working and doing life there in the lands of the Bible. I think that's so compelling.

[00:16:37] And I think audiences respond to that.

[00:16:40] Scott Maderer: And I think, going back to that, knowing other people's stories, a part of it. I think a lot of times what we see as somebody who is very different at some level, maybe they're a different faith, maybe they're from a different part of the country, maybe they're a different political background, whatever.

[00:16:59] Different [00:17:00] age, there's a million things that we can look at and, say different race, different gender, keep going down the list. We have a tendency, I think, a lot of times to focus on that, what makes us different. When, a lot of times, there's a lot more power in recognizing, but wait, this is the stuff that makes us the same.

[00:17:19] We have a lot in common. We're still both people. We're still both walking a human journey. We're probably still both doing the best we can, and there's struggles and there's trials and there's tribulations and there's good stuff and there's all of this stuff. I think instead we have a tendency to sometimes focus on what makes us different.

[00:17:36] Do you see part of the power of what you do highlighting the other side of that, so to speak, as opposed to accelerating the differences.

[00:17:44] Craig Dehut: Yeah. And that's certainly our hope. You're absolutely right. And I've tried to take time to figure out why it sells so well, why it's so effective in storytelling.

[00:17:52] That's what news does. They break us up into groups and demographics by age, by political association, [00:18:00] by location by race. They put us into boxes. And there's benefit to that in some instances, right? Sometimes you do. Even just to play a sport, you have to break them up into teams, and you're not going to put an 80 year old man playing against an 18 year old boy, so I understand that. And yet, when it comes to our walk in life, and certainly our walk in faith We are all created in the image of God, and God's quite the artist. He makes us in a variety of ways. It's amazing.

[00:18:31] We look different. We talk different. We come from different places. We have different cultures. And I think there's great benefit. I can only speak for myself, but I was born in America. I grew up in American culture. And the first time I traveled really out of the country was my first trip to Israel.

[00:18:48] And it was just, oh, it was eye opening because I'm going to places in Jerusalem and not only do you have obviously locals there and a variety of different types of people who are all locals but you've got people [00:19:00] visiting from all over the world. Jerusalem is just full of all kinds of different people.

[00:19:03] And I'm hearing four or five different languages at once as I'm walking through the streets. And it's fascinating. And God calls all those people. God desires all men everywhere, all people everywhere to repent, right? And wherever you come from, whatever language you speak God loves you, and wants you, and we had this experience.

[00:19:25] This has just been a couple of years ago, but we traveled up to Jabal Musa. It's the traditional location of Mount Sinai in the Sinai Peninsula. And we had several guides who helped us hike up that very quickly. And we spent the night at the top of the mountain, which is super cool. And there were other people visiting.

[00:19:42] There were other tourists up there and we all just shared. And you've got very fundamentally different faiths up there. And you've got different languages up there. But we shared a meal together, and we got to talk about, what we were doing there as Christian filmmakers, and what we're hoping to help people understand about [00:20:00] Jesus.

[00:20:00] And no one was yelling and no one was hating on each other and we understood there were differences and they're important things to talk about. You don't just gloss over them and pretend like it's all the same, but you don't treat each other the way that the news wants us to treat each other. And the way that, that social media wants us to treat each other where we're different.

[00:20:18] So obviously I hate you and we can't ever have a relationship. No. I love you because God loves you. And, there's a lot I can learn from you. Let's be real. They have better food in other countries than we do here. And I've been trying to tell my kids this, like some of my favorite foods are the things I didn't taste until I was 35 years old, until I left this country.

[00:20:42] So let's learn from people and benefit from other cultures.

[00:20:45] Scott Maderer: And I think a lot of times, I've gotten to travel internationally some not to Israel yet it's on the list, but it's interesting how a lot of times. the more you can, quote, get exposed to [00:21:00] those things, the more you begin to go, huh, maybe we're not as different as I thought, I still may be frustrated.

[00:21:08] We still may look at each other and go, I, how can you believe X, Y, Z fill in the blank, whatever it is. But, I just don't understand how you get there, but that's one of the things that I've found that's interesting. I stopped asking people what they believe. And I've started trying to ask people, why do you believe that?

[00:21:25] Walk me through your journey. What brought you to this point in your life? Because people don't just arrive at beliefs, whole cloth, it comes from places and your journey, I'm more interested in your journey than I am what you currently are at because where you're at today is probably going to be different in 10 years anyway.

[00:21:43] I'm more interested in talking about your journey and to me that seems to, I don't know, it, it makes it easier for me to go, Oh, okay. You believe different than me, but I can understand how you got there.

[00:21:55] Craig Dehut: And we use this example quite a bit when Jesus interacted with the Samaritan woman [00:22:00] at the well, like not the same culture, And in that culture, it was not really appropriate for men and women, strangers to just open a conversation.

[00:22:11] Scott Maderer: And Jesus, Samaritans, what is open? There are all kinds of reasons why

[00:22:16] Craig Dehut: that was not typical or expected. And he knew she needed something. He knew that she needed him and the message that he brought. But He starts out pretty non confrontationally, unexpectedly. She's what are you doing?

[00:22:30] But by the time that conversation is over, he has exposed sin in her life and given her the offer of true living water and given her what she needs. And she's so excited about it. She runs into town and she becomes this evangelist for him telling everyone about what he's done. And and that's what we should do is we shouldn't approach people and from a distance go, no, that's definitely the type of person I shouldn't be interacting with. That's de oh, they wouldn't want this. No, that's not how Jesus [00:23:00] treated people, and that's not how we should. And it's just been so good. It's on so many levels. I joked about the food, but even additionally, just the spiritual differences, just getting to experience the world.

[00:23:12] Get us out of our own boxes see landscapes that I've never seen, and eat food that I've never eaten and just talk to people. And yet, as different as it is and learning new things it was surprising. We're in Jerusalem, very old buildings, built on top of, built on top of, but you step inside, our guide, his name is Gus, and he's a wonderful man.

[00:23:33] And his wife made food for us and invited us over for dinner and we step inside and once you get inside of this, what looks like an ancient structure on the outside, you step inside and it's a modern home. And he's got a TV and his kids playing video games, and it's it's easy to just focus on the differences, but yeah, when you get down to it, he's a man with a family and kids, and he's got the same thoughts and concerns about his family and hopes and dreams for them, [00:24:00] and It's good to be reminded of that, I think more and we're not going to get that from social media, or from the internet, or from news we've got to go out and experience it.

[00:24:10] Scott Maderer: Absolutely. So I've got a few questions that I like to ask all of my guests, but before I ask you those, is there anything else about the work you do, or the journey that you've been on, that you would like to share with the listener?

[00:24:24] Craig Dehut: Sure. I've mentioned briefly the work that we do with Appian Media, and I'm thrilled with what we've done.

[00:24:30] Our goal is to create content that is professionally produced and biblically accurate and free. And it's one of the things that actually sets us apart from a lot of other companies that are making great work. Is myself and Stuart Peck, the other co founder, had a desire early on, To make this available so that teachers, parents, preachers, whoever, the general public could go online and just watch it for free to remove any kind of barriers and one of those barriers that we had seen [00:25:00] with previous productions was just, For production value, like great message.

[00:25:04] The host was compelling, but it just wasn't put together. And it's not going to keep your attention. Some of those barriers were just really well produced, maybe even biblically accurate, but just very expensive. And I'm not going to be able to purchase that before knowing whether it's what I want.

[00:25:18] And so that's what we've been after since Really since 2015 the idea was born, 2016 was our first trip to Israel, and since that time we've, we visited Israel and Turkey and Egypt and Jordan and made five different major documentary series and other podcasts and children's series all for free because we're trying to We're trying to get it into the hands of people and get people reengaged and excited about God's living word.

[00:25:46] Absolutely.

[00:25:49] Scott Maderer: So I, my brain is inspired stewardship and I have a a lens that I run things through, which is that lens of stewardship. And yet, what we were talking about earlier with [00:26:00] finding that people see things different ways. That's one of those words that I've discovered over the years means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

[00:26:07] So when you hear the word stewardship, what does that word mean to you? Stewardship.

[00:26:15] Craig Dehut: Stewardship is taking care of something valuable that does not belong to me, and it's a great responsibility, and it's an important calling that we all have. We are all stewards. of many things. And what I appreciate about stewardship is it helps keep things in the proper place.

[00:26:38] My money is not my own. My life is not my own. My family is a blessing and it's it's one of the greatest blessings I've experienced, but they're not mine. They're not mine to keep forever, right? My kids we're supposed to train them and help them and lead them and guide them and provide for them.

[00:26:56] And then one day we set them off on their own journeys. My [00:27:00] time, it's a gift from God. I don't know how much I get. But it's something very precious that I'm supposed to use because it belongs to somebody else. And we are all stewards of many things. And as long as we remember that, we don't put ourselves as the, actually I'm the owner of no, we really aren't.

[00:27:19] And it helps keep keep us humble. Absolutely.

[00:27:25] Scott Maderer: So this is my favorite question that I like to ask everybody, imagine for a minute that I can invent this magic machine. And with this machine, I was able to pluck you from where you are today and transport you into the future, maybe 150, maybe 250 years.

[00:27:43] But through the power of this machine, you were able to look back and see your entire life. See all of the connections, all of the ripples, all of the impacts you've left. What impact do you hope you've left in the world?

[00:27:57] Craig Dehut: Man, so you're not talking like a five year plan. You're talking because [00:28:00] that's what we do in business, right? Okay. I've had conversations with my wife recently about the fact that I don't even remember the name of my great grandfather. And I know some families do no disrespect to the man I'm sure he was a great person, but I don't even remember his name, what kind of impact did he have on my life?

[00:28:17] It's not much. But I think about the things that my father has done. I think about the things that he has taught me that I find myself using with my own children. I think about the work that I'm doing now and whether it will be remembered. 150 years from now, I hope that the work will be remembered.

[00:28:40] That the work will still be helpful. I'm okay if they don't remember who made it. I'm okay if they don't remember the name of the guy who shot and edited. Like I, it's okay. I want them to remember the name of Jesus. And I think there's a reason why 2000 years for, we're [00:29:00] still talking about him.

[00:29:01] But do we know the names of many of those early church leaders and members? We really don't, a handful, but the work is still having an impact. And very importantly, the work that I'm doing with my three children, with my wife that's important. And that will have an impact on other people.

[00:29:22] It already is. The work that I'm doing with Appian Media it's exciting to think about, because we can look at YouTube numbers and we can see the millions of views and all these subscribers and how many of them are real people and how many of them are bots? I'm not sure. That's probably a different conversation.

[00:29:39] But I have been able to talk with real people who have said that they have used the material and they taught their kids or they taught their class or they used it in prisons. That's super cool. What kind of impact will it have on people? I hope that they will better understand Jesus and better love him and follow him 150 [00:30:00] years from now.

[00:30:01] And I'm completely okay if my name is not part of that conversation at all.

[00:30:08] Scott Maderer: So what's coming next? What's on the roadmap as you continue on the rest of the rest of the year before you hit your midlife crisis?

[00:30:14] Craig Dehut: Oh man, the rest of the year the rest of the year is us finishing another set of children's videos.

[00:30:21] We're calling this one Lessons from the Land, The Exodus. And so these were actually shot about 18 months ago. And I've been working on editing those together. There'll be a work bug. Before the midlife crisis or after the midlife? I don't

[00:30:33] Scott Maderer: know. You may not know after.

[00:30:38] Craig Dehut: The thing that has been said about Appian Media from the beginning, one of our hosts and one of our team members, Barry Britnell, he leads tours over to Israel.

[00:30:46] As he said, the thing about the Bible is there aren't five stories to tell. There's 500 stories to tell. And we could assemble A large team and work on this thing nonstop and fill lifetimes [00:31:00] and not tell every story that could be told. We would like to one of our 10 year, maybe 15 year goals is we would love to create content that covers the Bible from Genesis to Revelation.

[00:31:13] And so if someone said, Hey, I'm studying this part of the Bible, we could say we have some content for that, whether it's a book or a podcast or media or something. But. From Genesis to Revelation. We've got a long way to go. We've produced some and we're thrilled with it. And we're excited to, Lord willing cover more of the New Testament story.

[00:31:33] So we've done a series on the Gospels but the story of the axe is something that is just incredibly exciting and powerful and and I think would be beneficial. That's what we've got our eyes on coming up.

[00:31:46] Scott Maderer: Awesome. And you can find out more about Craig and the work that he does over at appianmedia.

[00:31:54] org. And of course, I'll have a link to that over in the show notes so you can find it easily. Craig, anything [00:32:00] else you'd like to share with the listener?

[00:32:03] Craig Dehut: Oh man I just love what you're emphasizing. The idea of inspired stewardship and the idea of just recognizing not just that we are stewards of things, but it's God given.

[00:32:12] And that should then inspire us to, to do great things. And I'm thankful for the opportunity to share what we're doing with ours. And one of the things that I love about Appian Media is it has prompted people to come and talk to us and go, how can I be used? And it's you may not be able to be of use necessarily to the work that we're doing, but you can be useful.

[00:32:31] Go find it. Go find your purpose. God can use all kinds. And so I love your emphasis and I'm thankful for the conversation.

[00:32:39] Scott Maderer: Thank you. I appreciate the kind words. And I really, I love the work that you're all are doing over there. I love the emphasis. I'm putting it out in a way that's accessible to folks too.

[00:32:49] Cause you know, having worked in. Church and AB and things. That's one of the big challenges all the time is finding things that are good that you can also legally show [00:33:00] without spending thousands of dollars sometimes. So I appreciate that emphasis on making it accessible to the world and to people.

[00:33:07] So thank you again for coming on. I, it was great having you here.

[00:33:12] Craig Dehut: Thank you.

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