SNS 111: Saturday Night Special – Second Interview with Stewardship Advisor Marc Hall Author of Pursuing Spiritual Wealth

[00:00:00] Scott Maderer: Welcome to tonight's. Saturday night, special episode, 111

[00:00:05] Marcus Hall: I'm Marcus hall, author of pursuing spiritual wealth, 40 principles that make your life richer. I challenge you to invest in yourself, invest in others, develop your influence and impact the world by using your time, your talent and your treasures to live out your.

[00:00:23] Having the ability to recognize you are a manager and not an owner is key. And one way to be inspired to do that is to listen to this, the inspired stewardship podcast with my friend, Scott.

[00:00:37] I think it's important to set goals that you can see and Hey, that may change that grew up in Nixon year, but I need a framework to make sure I'm being purposeful about those things. And so those things, but also with my time and my knowledge, like I shared before, really, I still consider myself the young guy and I'm not in more.

[00:00:55] Scott Maderer: Welcome and thank you for joining us on the inspired stewardship [00:01:00] podcast. If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to be, then you must learn to use your time, your talent and your treasures for your true calling in the inspired stewardship podcast. We'll learn to invest in yourself, invest in others and develop your influence so that you can impact the world.

[00:01:22] and tonight Saturday night special, I interview Marcus hall a second time. As his book, spiritual wealth has been rereleased with updates as pursuing spiritual wealth. I asked Marcus to share a bit about the God moments that led to this new version of the book. I also asked Marcus about why we have to shift our worldview from.

[00:01:44] To manager. And I also asked Marcus to share with you the biggest secret tip that he's discovered when it comes to pursuing spiritual wealth. Now, one area that a lot of folks need some help with is [00:02:00] around the area of productivity. Getting not just more things done, but actually getting the right things done can be really.

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[00:02:59] [00:03:00] Check it out over@inspiredstewardship.com slash law. Marcus hall is an Arthur and Christian financial advisor who helps families create and develop a value based planning investment in giving strategies. His goal is to help people understand the biblical principles of stewardship, how to apply them to real.

[00:03:20] And fulfill God's purpose for their existence. He's gained valuable knowledge on the subject by obtaining the certified kingdom advisor designation and desires to help people integrate their Christian values into their financial decision-making. Marcus spent the early part of his career as a broadcast journalist and was awarded multiple.

[00:03:38] Alabama associated press awards for his anchoring reporting and videography of local high school and college sporting events. His passion was finding that something special about local athletes, both kids and adults and sharing their stories with his audience. He now uses those same skills honed in the broadcast industry to teach others on the subject of.[00:04:00]

[00:04:01] Barcus has married to Christie and as three wonderful daughters and he's recently updated and rereleasing his book pursuing spiritual wealth, 40 principles that make your life. Welcome back to the show, mark.

[00:04:14] Marcus Hall: Great to be here, man. It's so good to talk with you again.

[00:04:18] Scott Maderer: It is good. And for those that are listening, if you haven't been listening for a while, I had mark back on the podcast on episode 7 76, 7 81, 7 86 and 7 91 for a four parter.

[00:04:31] And I wanted to have you back on because I'm excited because you've recently, rereleased your book. And put in some updates, some changes and some things that are coming up. Can you share a little bit with the listeners, the journey from, writing the book the first time, getting it out there and now what's happened to bring you to a chance to rerelease it with

[00:04:51] Marcus Hall: Some updates?

[00:04:52] Scott, it is, it's been an incredible journey over the past over the past year and a half. And apparently this is God's plan because this was [00:05:00] nothing I had plans. I like to set. I like to, at the end of each year, look at personal goals and business goals and set those based on what we need to do for the upcoming year.

[00:05:08] This was not on my agenda at the end of 2019 to do anything like this, the starting 2020, and in February before the world changed in 2020. God really laid on my heart and it was really a processing started a few years ago with me going through certain things like earning the certified kingdom advisor designation building up a desire for stewardship and that message as a whole inside of me when he presented to me one day that we were going to be writing the book that here and I, my initial reaction was, I don't think so, but I don't know how to do that.

[00:05:41] It doesn't make any sense to me quite honestly, but that's how God. And one of the things that I've learned throughout this process is I really have to be better. And thankfully, I was able to do it in this situation of actually exhibiting faith and saying, all right, God used to, I would say I'm more than happy to do that, but I really need to know the [00:06:00] end result of all of this.

[00:06:01] Tell me how this is going to guess what that's not faith. That's no faith at all, but now being able to say, just tell me what you need me to do. So I go through the process. I get the book written last year as a self published author. He just put folks in my past the information I need and how to get that done.

[00:06:18] My sheer meeting folks like you and getting out there and getting the word out. And then I got to earlier this year to a point where I said, I block, I've done all I can do. I don't know what else to do at this point. And within a week or two, I had an email. That's that, Hey, really? What you're doing.

[00:06:33] We're looking to partner with more authors doing this. Let's talk. And that's really how this process has come about that we're taking the same project in that date and then some, and have a new one. That is

[00:06:44] Scott Maderer: that's awesome. And it is funny sometimes how God works in our life and kind of we, we have our plans, but that's always exactly the way it plays out.

[00:06:53] We've talked before on the show about, their original edition to the book. In some ways the core [00:07:00] message is similar. And yet, you updating it and adding some new resources. So one of the things that I loved about the book, the first edition and I've enjoyed about the second is this idea of changing our worldview from owner to manager.

[00:07:16] Can you talk a little bit about why that worldview is important and how that comes

[00:07:21] Marcus Hall: about? I think perspective is everything. And I think in, just think about the fact that you can do nice things, but for totally different reasons, if I'm doing something that I want to be recognized for, that I want to get notoriety for, I may do the same thing in another situation where I'm saying, I want God to receive the honor for businesses up.

[00:07:43] And he's asking me to do, I want to be generous because he's been generous. Yes. The same result that people see outwardly, but it's not the same result inwardly because God doesn't honor those things that we do out of selfishness and out of grief. And so if your main concern is just achieving and getting more [00:08:00] simply for the sake of getting more, then you're never going to find true peace.

[00:08:04] You're never going to live a life that God wanted you to live in the first place. Because if all I want is more, I can never satisfy. No matter how much I have. I never hit that, that in point. And so I can never be happy. And. And it's those types of things that, that contentment, that peace, that joy, that I'm hoping to relay and get that message out to folks of saying let's see what the Bible has to say about our financial matters about how we how we act with our money and reframe our thinking, because God has prepared you for the time, the place that you're in, how would he want you to react in this situation?

[00:08:40] Scott Maderer: Obviously a lot of times when people think about stewardship, I want to dig a little deeper here. They think about the money part. Thinking about owner to manager, that's not just necessarily talk to you about money. Is it how does that extend into the other parts

[00:08:53] Marcus Hall: of our life at all?

[00:08:55] And that's when I go back to, I'm going to mess up the quote. Exactly. We don't have it in front of me, but Ron Lou has one of my [00:09:00] favorite quotes on Christian Stewart. And that is the fact that we are to take all of our God given resources, whether that be money the gifts that he gives us, the talents that he gives us, the time, the knowledge, the relationships that he gives us and take everything that he puts on our life.

[00:09:17] And reframe that to say, God, thank you for what you've done for me. Thank you for what you provided for me now, how can I use these gifts in every way possible to give back to them? And that doesn't mean that God expects you to give every cent that you have to the church, because you're living in this life here on earth, it takes money to live, but we also need to be thinking about how does God want me to give, how does God want me to say, how does God want me to handle my personal finances so that I can do these things that he wants me to, but also I love.

[00:09:48] And what I'm realizing more and more is simply as I'm getting a little bit older is it was spending time. With younger people as well. It may be in the same type of business that I'm in, reaching out to them [00:10:00] and say, listen, I know what it feels like to be where you are. Can I help you understand what's happening and help you reach the next step.

[00:10:06] That's a form of stewardship as well in using your knowledge and your resources, your experience to help others along the way.

[00:10:13] Scott Maderer: So as we look at this new updated edition, if you had to share the single biggest secret or tip, especially in this new edition, that maybe it's a little different for those folks that have read the previous one that you've added into this book, what would that be?

[00:10:30] Okay.

[00:10:30] Marcus Hall: When it comes down to it as Christians, we are called to be different from the. We're not called to be better than the world because we can't do it ourselves. That's the, whenever someone looks at you as a Christian and thinks you're perfect and have it all together. I believe as a Christian, you're actually admitting the facts.

[00:10:47] If you're living that launch style, that I don't have it all together and I can't do it myself, I have to rely on someone else on my creator to get me there. And I think it's just thinking differently and having a different perspective. From the world and [00:11:00] what I hope comes across and on the way that I have the book laid out is first of all, really understanding what it is that the Bible says about these types of things.

[00:11:09] What does the Bible say about contentment, about giving, about how we handle our resources and how we handle our gifts from him. Then it's making sure that our minds are aligned with him, because if you read the Bible and you don't agree with what you're reading. It's not the Bible. That's wrong, it's you?

[00:11:28] That are wrong. And we have to align our minds with that scripture because only then when we believe it, when we know it, can we live it out in our lines? And so what I'm hoping is people can realize is maybe no matter where we are. And that's what I try to hit on all the different aspects, different principles of life here, that the Bible gives us how to handle these gifts is wherever we are.

[00:11:49] I believe there's a place where every one of us to take the next. And I think it's just trying to be different from the world that just inundates us every day. And that I believe this [00:12:00] this book can really help you take that next step to where you need to be.

[00:12:02] Scott Maderer: So one of the questions that I always ask on the Saturday night specials, but I didn't actually ask you back on that four parter explicitly this question.

[00:12:11] So switch gears is, to take that word, cause we've been talking about it already today. We talked about it in back in the four parter. We talked a lot about stewardship, but if you had to define that word, what would your definition be? And then how has. Meaning, or that understanding actually

[00:12:30] Marcus Hall: impacted your life?

[00:12:31] And I'll go back to what I was saying earlier on really that quote from Ron blue really stands out to me how he defines stewardship and what it's done is that it has changed my perspective and it's made me more aware and more purposeful and how I spend money, how I give money, how I spend. How I'm doing these things that I need to be doing in my life.

[00:12:54] And so two things have happened that I've seen as a mark difference in my life. And one of those [00:13:00] is as a business person as an advisor, I told her, I would always say goats and I still do every year. And so of course we want to grow our business. There's nothing wrong with that whatsoever. God wants us to be great at what we're in to show excellence in what we're doing.

[00:13:15] If we're doing it the right way. I know before I would want to grow simply for the sake of growing. So I could have more, my family can have where there's nothing more with doing. There's nothing wrong with doing more for your family, but that was the main objective. Now I look at it and I'm excited about the fact that as I've grown, that gives me an opportunity to give them.

[00:13:35] And I haven't experienced that before the past few years of really understanding that's how God wants me to act. And even earlier this year for the first time, I liked to not have actually put together a giving plan over the next 10 years of what we thought like God is calling us to do through our income and through our business and how to get.

[00:13:54] And where to get back. And so it's not that we're being fair to see if I can make up a word, just to [00:14:00] check off a list of things. But I think to be purposeful, it's just like planning a budget and planning other, having other plans, as far as the financial plan of how to go about to reach success with retirement goals and things like.

[00:14:11] I think it's important to set goals so that you can see, Hey, that may change that throughout the next few years, but I need a framework to make sure I'm being purposeful about those things. And so those things, but also with my time and my knowledge, like I shared before, I've really, I still consider myself a young guy and I'm not in more of a guy that has some experience.

[00:14:31] And I have been through some things that asset, as I see others struggle or need some help and making sure that I'm taking the time to do that as well, but to spend time.

[00:14:39] Scott Maderer: So we're going to kind of change gears and ask what I jokingly call the easy question. So if I could invent a machine that was able to grab you from this moment in time and take you into the far future, and you were able to look back knowing what you know now what's changed in the last year, what's grown and in your heart, [00:15:00] what impact do you hope you've had on the world?

[00:15:02] Marcus Hall: Now one of my goals with not just the book and put it in out there, but I really enjoy being in front of folks and enjoy the interaction of talking to folks about what the Bible says about these principles and about the way that we should live, because stewardship is just simply a sign of spiritual maturity and as a part of spiritual maturity in your life, what I hope is that down the road through everything that I'm going through right now, I hope that we can look.

[00:15:29] And that one, it may be it when I do meet God and just fall at his feet and he's discussing with me reviewing my life. There's going to be a lot of things. I wish he didn't bring up. Quite honestly, I knew that, but I hope at that point that we can look back and see that I help people make a difference in their lives of how they use the gifts that they were given.

[00:15:49] And if I had the impact, if I had an impact and does one person through all of this, I've either say, you know what? This sounds really good. I've never looked into that. God's done. And I need to look down that path [00:16:00] and I'm about the holy spirit. I can't convert people, but I know that God uses us as vessels to help convey the message, to help show how we should be living to others.

[00:16:09] And if I can make that impact on someone to either take that step into Christianity or to take that step down the road and say, you know what, I'm doing this, but now I realize, maybe through help with a book or speaking with someone that maybe I need to be doing a little bit something. No matter how much they have or didn't have in their lives, they could realize, Hey, I can do something else for the kingdom because the one thing I want to stress to everybody is that God has a plan.

[00:16:32] If you're listening to this, God has a plan for each and every one of you that are listening to this conversation, because if you're still alive and you're still breathing, God still has plans for you. And we may think sometimes that just because our bank account isn't as big as somebody else's that he can't do that we can't do for him, what others might be able to do.

[00:16:52] But w we're familiar with that story in the Bible where the poor woman with our two coins as everybody else, because they're set up in [00:17:00] public to give their offering, to give their tie so that they can boast about how much they're giving. And this poor old woman comes in and gives her the two coins, the least amount of anybody else giving, but it's everything she hands and that's where Jesus stops and says, let me show you an example of how to give to my.

[00:17:18] It might be the least amount, but it's everything she heard and that's what God has asked us to do and what I hope I can convey to help people see, we can still be useful for God. So

[00:17:28] Scott Maderer: as you get this new addition to the book out, into the world and with everything else, w we talked about the fact that probably what you have planned may or may not shake out exactly the way you have a plan, because God has his own plan, but from what you can see today, what's coming next on this journey.

[00:17:42] As you continue to live out your call and impact the world,

[00:17:46] Marcus Hall: a couple of things. And hopefully I'm really, I'm hoping that this was a ministry that starting in its infant stages and its first agents. And and to see the growth. I've mentioned to a lot of folks and conversations I've had with people over the past year and a half.

[00:17:59] So I [00:18:00] have no business talking to, except for the book is now in the arsenal, in, in, available in in, in promoting that and talking about the message of stewardship, getting to meet folks like you and do things like this. I love this atmosphere of being able to teach folks in helping people learn about what the Bible say.

[00:18:16] So there's really two things. One I told you, I'd love to get in front of folks. And I'm seeing that more and more opportunities of now getting in front of groups to talk about this message, to make it come alive. What I hope is to take the spiritual aspects. Sometimes we set the Bible apart from real life and we see everything that happened.

[00:18:33] And especially the old Testament can be very hard to relate to my life today, but how to take that text and that scripture that God has given us his word and help people with. To their lives, either through speaking or through the book. And honestly, we've got more projects in the works as well with the publisher that I'm with now of dealing with very specific topics and very specific ways.

[00:18:54] Recently I've actually joined Ron blue as a fellow of the Ron blue Institute. So I'll be working more and [00:19:00] more with Ron and with his. To help emphasize the message of how to handle our money the right way from the biblical worldview. There's a few things that are starting to churn just as God does.

[00:19:09] If you're willing to step out in faith, it's amazing what he can do. So I'm really looking forward to the things he has in store for this.

[00:19:14] Scott Maderer: So you can follow mark on Facebook and Instagram as at steward ship. Arthur, he's also over on LinkedIn as Marcus hall, or find him on his website@stewardshipmindset.com. There's also resources over there about the new addition to the book. You can also find out more about the book and sign up for all of those free courses.

[00:19:36] There I'll have links to all of these in the show notes as. Mark. Is there anything else you'd like to share with the listener?

[00:19:44] Marcus Hall: Listen, I appreciate the time that you give me to to to talk about the book, to talk about this message. And I really do hope that that you'll look at the book it's pursuing spiritual.

[00:19:54] 40 principles that make your life richer. I think there is, it's not my writing, but it's the [00:20:00] direction that I give you to some of the texts and some of the verses that deal with money. We know over 2000 verses in the Bible that deal with stewardship finances in some way, shape or form. I want to help you take that next step in your spiritual growth.

[00:20:13] And if I can play a part in that would just be awesome. Knowing that God has me where he needs me right now.

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