This is Part 4 of the interview I had with author, speaker, teacher, coach, and married father of two Joel Hawbaker.  Joel has had lots of opportunities to see both good and bad leadership. From that and his faith Joel learned and wrote Inverted leadership where he lays out how you can lead others by forgetting about yourself.  A gospel based message of leadership.

In today's interview with Joel Hawbaker, author of "Inverted Leadership", he and I talk with you about impacting the world. Joel shares how you can really understand the impact your leadership is making, even if you don’t think it is.  Joel also shares his top principles you should focus on if you want to make a dent in the universe.  I ask Joel to share his hopes for the legacy he wants to leave and lots more…

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