This is Part 3 of the interview I had with author, speaker, teacher, coach, and married father of two Joel Hawbaker.  Joel has had lots of opportunities to see both good and bad leadership. From that and his faith Joel learned and wrote Inverted leadership where he lays out how you can lead others by forgetting about yourself.  A gospel based message of leadership.

In today's interview with Joel Hawbaker, author of "Inverted Leadership", he and I talk with you about developing your influence.  Joel shares his personal definition of leadership.  As well, Joel helps you understand how relationships are important and how you can keep them from turning transactional.   Joel also shares his ideas behind how you can choose significance over success and lots more.

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