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{\b\fs48 Episode 1563: Interview with Sean McManus About Avoiding Burnout By Choosing Intentional Health\b0}

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

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{ Thanks for joining us on episode 1,563 of the Inspired Stewardship Podcast. }

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ Hey guys, I'm Sean McManus. I challenge you to invest in yourself, invest in others, develop your influence and impact the world by using your time, your talent, and your treasures to live out your calling. Having the ability to stop pursuing comfort and live into God's plan is key and one way to be inspired to do that is to listen to this The Inspired Stewardship Podcast with my friend Scott Mader.}

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{The way that you build self-confidence is keeping the promises that you make to yourself when you start a workout program or when you start a nutrition plan. As you start to build those wins, as you become consistent, as that becomes a part of your lifestyle, your self-confidence goes up because now you're keeping the promises that you made to yourself and you're teaching yourself that you can trust yourself again.}

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ Welcome and thank you for joining us on }

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{ the Inspired Stewardship Podcast. If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to be. Then you must learn to use your time, your talent, and your treasures for your true calling. In the Inspired Stewardship podcast, you will learn to invest in yourself, invest in others, and develop your influence so that you can impact the world.}

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{In today's podcast episode, I interview Sean McManus. I asked Sean about how faith and health are connected. I also asked Sean about how self-confidence is connected to our mindset about health. And Sean also shares with you how important it is as men to find time for our own health, our spiritual, mental, and physical health.}

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{I have a great book that's been out for a while now called Inspired Living. Assemble the Puzzle of your Calling by }

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{ Mastering your Time, your Talent, and your Treasures. You can find out more about that book over@inspiredlivingbook.com. It'll take you to a page where there's information and you can sign up to get some mailings about it, as well as purchase a copy there.}

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{I'd love to see you. Get a copy and share with me how it impacted your world. Sean McManus is a devoted family man, entrepreneur, and fitness coach dedicated to helping Christian men reclaim their strength physically, mentally, and spiritually. After years in the corporate world, he found himself unfulfilled and disconnected from his true calling, fueled by faith, and a passion for creating a better life for his family.}

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{He took a leap of faith, leaving the corporate world to build a life of purpose and impact. Now as the founder of McManus Strength and Nutrition, Sean empowers Christian men to take ownership of their health mindset and leadership through strength training, nutrition and faith-based coaching. His mission is }

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{ simple to help men break free from burnout, rebuild their self-confidence, and develop strong bodies and minds so that they can lead themselves and their families with clarity and conviction.}

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{Through his coaching programs and speaking engagements, Sean shares practical strategies, biblical wisdom and inspiring stories to equip men to step into their God-given potential with boldness and strength. When he is not coaching or lifting weights, you'll find him spending quality time with his wife and kids and enjoying the great outdoors.}

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{Welcome to the show, Sean. }

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ Hey Scott. Great to be here, man. Thank you for having me. }

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ Absolutely. So I talked a little bit in the intro about some of the work you've done, some of the journey that you've been on as you've begun now focusing on empowering Christian men to, to work on their health and their mindset as a coach.}

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{But I always think intros and those sort of things just tell us. The highlight reel of our journey. They don't really give the full story. So take us look }

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{ back a little bit and share a little bit more about your journey and what's brought you to this point where this is what you feel called to do.}

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ Yeah, absolutely. I'll try to keep it relatively brief. I can get a little long-winded on the story, but grew up on a small farm in the foothills of North Carolina. So we moved out to the farm when I was about 10 or 11 years old. I was homeschooled throughout my entire childhood. We actually, I'm sorry, lemme take that back.}

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{I went to public school through second grade and then I was homeschooled from then on out. My parents wanted to make sure that, we had a Christ-centered education and they didn't like where the public school system was going at that time. So they pulled us out and homeschooled us. I am one of seven children, so taking on homeschooling seven kids is quite the undertaking.}

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{So the house, the household was busy growing up. It was great. It was a lot of fun. I grew up on the farm, enjoyed the farm life learned how to work learned a good work ethic, enjoyed being outside, being in God's creation. Everything that comes along with that, working with my family, with my dad.}

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{Lots of fun }

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{ there. Actually went to college for agriculture. Did a two year technical degree at NC State. Graduated from there. Started my journey into corporate America at that time working for a poultry production company. I did that for about eight years. I'd always had this entrepreneurial spirit growing up, but, I did the thing I was supposed to, I went and got the quote unquote safe job and started working the corporate life.}

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{So about a year or two into that I knew that I really didn't enjoy it. It wasn't very challenging for me. There wasn't a lot of problem solving, so I knew I wanted to do something different and I just had no idea what that was. And then I had a bit of a wake up call. I've got a younger brother that runs a business, runs a big landscaping company, and him and I were together.}

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{I was about three or four years into my corporate job at this time, and we were riding together. Coming home from the beach. I think both of our wives }

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{ were asleep in the backseat of his truck. And we were just talking and chatting and he just looked over at me and he said, what are you doing?}

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{And it just took me aback. And I was like, what are you talking about? He said, your job what's up with your job? What are you doing? And I was like, I'm just working. I'm paying the bills. I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And he was like, man, you can do so much more.}

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{I don't, I feel like you're getting too comfortable. And I was like. Okay, this is coming outta nowhere. But it hit me. And so from then on I started my self, you call it self-leadership, self-growth journey. I began to read a lot of self-help books sales books, entrepreneurial books, financial mindset books, and it really started to open up my mind into this completely different world that I didn't even know about existed.}

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{I started into that was still working my corporate job throughout this growth journey, I started a home repair business. Construction is something that I had some experience in, and it's something }

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{ I felt like I could do. So I started doing that on the side. That was my first side hustle per se.}

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{Started doing that and then. A few years into that, we had actually saved up enough money to purchase our first investment property. Did the investment property for a little bit, completely remodeled that place. It was a, it was an absolute wreck. Spent about a year doing that while I was still working my corporate job.}

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{And then it was about a year and a half, two years ago we found out we were pregnant with our second son. And I am the sole breadwinner in my household. My wife stays home with the kiddos and, does an incredible job raising them. But we were pretty tight financially at that time already.}

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{And with a second baby on the way, I knew that I had to make some sort of shift. So I started looking at jobs. I came across a. A door to door sales position for a solar company a hundred percent commission and completely different than anything I had }

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{ done, but they promised lots of money quickly if I worked hard and learned fast.}

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{And I knew that I could do both of those things. Started in on that venture, left my corporate job and started knocking doors for a solar company. Did that for about three or four months. I really didn't like the job. Really didn't like showing up on people's doorsteps unannounced when they got home from work.}

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{They didn't like that either, but I was pretty good at the sales part. I was pretty good at making people feel pretty comfortable and but anyway, decided I didn't like doing that and so I went full on into my home repair business after our second son was born and was also building my coaching business on the side because I had been doing some coaching part-time for a while.}

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{And then. As I was trying to build both of those businesses, both of 'em were fairly new, so they were both requiring a lot of time. I realized that I really didn't want to grow the home repair business because it's not what I wanted to do. So I stopped doing that and went full on into the men's strength and nutrition coaching }

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{ and that brings us to where we are now.}

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{And I was a little bit of an overview a little bit all over the place, but that's a general idea of my story. }

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ That's all good. A couple of things. You mentioned several times, feeling like you were doing something, not that it was necessarily bad or anything, but it just didn't feel like it was the thing that you were supposed to be doing.}

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{That's how you put it. Talk a little bit more about what does that mean to feel like it wasn't what you were supposed to be doing? Because a lot of the folks that listen to the show are struggling with that day of, what is my calling? What is my purpose? What am I supposed to be doing? So they get that, but.}

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{Tell, tell us a little bit more about, for you, what did that feel like? How did you know it wasn't what you were supposed to be doing? }

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ Yeah, so one of the things was I just felt very unfulfilled. In my work. I felt it was very monotonous. It brought me no joy whatsoever. Other than, hanging out with coworkers and talking to them and spending time with them.}

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{As far as like the work aspect of it did not challenge me, did not bring me any joy. }

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{ So yeah, I've definitely had my own journey of feeling very unfulfilled, feeling like I was not where I was supposed to be, but not knowing how to get away from that. And the biggest thing that I can tell people in that aspect is.}

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{Start looking at what you enjoy doing. Start looking at what you're good at and just start taking some kind of small action in that direction. It doesn't have to be huge. You don't have to leave your job the next day, but. I start exploring some of those options I would've never, I started the home repair business, not because I absolutely love construction, but because it was something I knew I could do and I did enjoy working with my hands.}

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{So I put those two together and I was like, let me give this a shot. Turned out I didn't enjoy it that much, so we pivoted and moved on, but I would've never known if I didn't try to do it. So some type of action towards something is better than just thinking about it all the time. }

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ Let's circle back to one of the things I like to highlight on the show is the intersection }

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{ between our faith journey and the spiritual walk that we're on and whatever that's playing out for us, and then our life journey and how those two things intersect and influence each other.}

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{Share a little bit more about how your faith has played out and changed and evolved and affected your life journey. }

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ Oh man. So faith has been a part of my life for as long as I can remember. My parents were both devout Christians and raised us in that household. I don't have one of those Paul on the road to Damascus type Christian journeys.}

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{But there, there have definitely been highs and lows in my journey to where, there are times where I feel very connected to God. There are times where I feel that I'm spending, the time in the, in his word, that I need to, I'm spending time in prayer that I need to, and I feel like we're on the same page.}

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{And then there are other times where. Maybe I'm not getting my priority straight. Maybe I'm putting, my business or my personal growth in front of him. And I don't feel as connected to him. And it }

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{ always, whenever things are not going, I don't wanna say not going well, but not, whenever I don't feel like things are going well.}

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{Super stressed, super anxious about how the business is doing, or just very. I guess unfulfilled in a sense with how my life is going. It usually comes back to me not having my priority straight, and I've shifted from, spending the time with him that I need to and putting him on the throne of my life where he needs to be.}

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ So now that you're working more in the idea of faith and fitness and kind of working on helping Christian men and this sort of thing, how did why fitness? Why is that something that you feel is important or you feel is connected to, the spiritual walk that other men are on as well?}

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ So there's two parts. Two parts to that. Number one would be fitness has been a big part of my life for many }

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{ years. I lifted, started lifting weights in high school, lifted weights in college. Had no idea what I was doing, but I was trying. I always enjoyed it, that was, it was something that I aspired to do was, to grow more muscle, get stronger, stay in shape.}

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{But I really started getting serious. A little bit over a decade ago. I had let myself go a little bit when I got out of college and, I started, I was living by myself, I was working the job maybe relaxing a little bit too much. And my fiance, who's my wife now, she's very honest and she told me that I was letting myself go a little bit.}

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{And that stung a little bit, but that kind of started my journey of getting very serious. And, I started doing research on nutrition, research on certain types of workouts and lifts. I met a guy in my gym at that time who was, several years older than me, but also much bigger, much stronger than I was.}

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{And we kinda made a fast friendship and he was my first quote unquote coach. So I learned a lot with him and, started implementing that in my journey. But it takes us back to what we were talking about before. }

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{ People are feeling unfulfilled and taking some sort of action in that direction.}

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{Fitness is something that is very important to me. It's something that I feel like I've mastered in some sense, and it's something that I feel like I can bring to other men. I had friends that would reach out to me and say, Hey, you look good. You're in shape, you're strong.}

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{I want to be like that. How do I do it? And I would start helping them. So that was my first intro into that. Yeah. But yeah, so that was the first piece into okay, this is something I'm good at. This is something I'm passionate about, this is something I enjoy doing and something I'm gonna do for the rest of my life anyway.}

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{So this is something that I can help other men do. Now, the other piece to that, as far as being specific to Christian men, I see. A very lackadaisical approach to fitness in modern Christianity today. Almost non-existent in a sense. With Christian men it's a very, we focus too much on the. I don't wanna say we focus too much on the spiritual, because our relationship with Christ is far more important than our fitness, but we }

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{ almost use the, I'm quote unquote, spiritually strong as an excuse to be physically weak, and I don't think that's appropriate.}

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{I think God has given us this body as a gift and we should take care of it. So that kind of ties those two together, if that answers your question.}

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ How do you think it plays out in terms of the feeling, how men have feelings of confidence and doubt and these sorts of things around their health, their wellbeing, their fitness, how does that affect their mental health and how does it help their mental state?}

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ Yeah, so it's been proven that exercise is as effective at treating depression as antidepressants are. So that's where I would say it helps your mental state. When you exercise, when you fuel your body it's very much improves your mental clarity. When you exercise, your body looks better. When your body looks better, when you feel better, your self-confidence goes up.}

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{The other piece to that is }

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{ the way that you build self-confidence is keeping the promises that you make to yourself. When you start a workout program or when you start a nutrition plan, as you start to build those wins, as you become consistent, as that becomes a part of your lifestyle, your self-confidence goes up because now you're keeping the promises that you made to yourself and you're teaching yourself that you can trust yourself again.}

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ So you've mentioned several times fitness, but you've also talked about nutrition. That is one of the big debates that everyone has, right? Is it exercise? Is it eating right? And I think, this is a softball question I'm giving you but at the same time I figured, I kinda ask it, for you, what is that kind of balance between paying attention to, to exercise, to diet, to, how those fit together.}

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ Man. Yeah, it definitely a softball question. It's all of the above for sure. We hear the phrase, you can't outwork a bad diet. You may be able to in your teens maybe in your twenties if you're lucky, but eventually those }

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{ cheeseburgers will catch up to you regardless of the amount of time that you spend in the gym.}

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{When we talk about balance the biggest thing that I work on with my clients is just giving them a good mindset around food and teaching them the basics of nutrition. So when I say the basics of nutrition, I'm talking about. Eating particularly Whole Foods. Okay? So we eat food the way that God made it.}

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{The closer you can get to the way he made it, the better. The processed junk, the Pop-Tarts, the Doritos the box of cookies, that's where you get in trouble. And I'm not saying you can never eat those things again. It's just the majority of the time, let's say.}

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{If you're not competing, if you're just trying to be healthy, let's say 80% of the time, you do really well. It's okay to eat those kinds of things occasionally. That just doesn't need to be the norm for you. }

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ Yeah, I, it, so I have a background in genetics and the question is always, is it environment or is it, is it your genes?}

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{And it's like geneticists answered that question a long time ago. The answer to that question is yes. It's both, yep. }

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ All of the above. }

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{ I }

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ like nutrition and exercise is the same thing for fitness people. It's uhhuh,}

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ yep, exactly. }

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ 'Cause if all you're doing is sitting on the couch all day, you could eat good.}

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{You're still not gonna be healthy, and if all you're doing is eating junk all day, you could be in the gym every day and still not be healthy. Either one, take it to an extreme. So when you think about stepping back and looking at your life, you mentioned as you told your story that it feels like it was all over the place in a lot of ways, or, DA lot of different things.}

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{And yet, I know you also just were talking about balance and being intentional and what you eat and what you do. How do you see that? That tension between, what does intentionality mean versus also being responsive to, trying things and then finding out maybe that's not the right thing.}

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{You, that tension between, I wanna be intentional, I wanna do what is good, and yet I also wanna be able to go the direction that God is calling me, which is sometimes surprising and, unexpected. }

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ I think they can go hand in hand. I think you can }

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{ intentionally try new things.}

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{So the thing that I see most of the time in our society in general I wanna speak to Christian men 'cause that's who I work with primarily, but we get in a routine. Our life routine with our family, with our church, with our job, and we stay in that routine for 20 years and we never even think about it.}

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{We don't think about why we're working the job. We're working. We don't think about why we're letting the kids do 16 sports instead of just two. And we have no time together as a family. Like we don't think about why we're exhausted all the time. We don't think about why we're unfulfilled. We just get in a routine and.}

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{We don't ever question it. So that's what I challenge people. Oftentimes it's look, routines are good but you have a limited amount of time here on Earth. Are you being intentional with how you spend it? Are you being intentional with the type of work that you do? Do you enjoy it? Does it bring you closer to Christ?}

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{Or does it just exhaust you and you're just doing it because society told you it was safe? }

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ Yeah. One of }

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{ the the things I talk about is habits aren't good or bad until you examine 'em and figure out whether it's moving you in the direction that you want to go. It's, the, a habit is just a habit, but some habits are moving you the place you wanna go and some habits aren't.}

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{So it's the same. Yeah. You've gotta examine that and think about that and back to your cheeseburgers as a teenager, the habits that served you well when you were 16 are not always the habits that served you well when you're 42 or 52, or,}

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ yeah, we had a change and grow. }

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ My my one of the things I, my father said to me one year was, he's he was about 55 at the time and he says, yeah, I could still do everything I can do, I could do in my twenties.}

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{And I kinda looked at him and he says, of course it takes me about twice as long to recover from it, but I can still do it. That's right. I'm like, now that's okay. Now that I'm in my fifties, it's I understand what the man meant. It's like it's That's right. I got you right there with you. So I've got a few questions that I like to ask all of my guests, but before I go there and ask those, is there anything else about the work you do with Christian }

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{ men or health and fitness that you feel is really important for the listener to hear?}

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ So a lot of people think oftentimes that it's so far away and they think that they have to turn their entire life upside down to get to the place where they need to be, and it's just not the case. A lot of the times we don't start moving towards something because we think we're so far away from it that it doesn't matter.}

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{But every decision that you make to move you towards that goal matters. So a lot of my clients, or even guys that I just talked to that may become clients and may not I tell them, especially if they're, on the very far end of the spectrum of unhealthy, it's look, I do not want you to go to the gym five days a week and completely turn your diet upside down because it isn't sustainable.}

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{We need to work towards that. If we do that now in about a week or two weeks, you're gonna tell me that you hate me and you we're never gonna talk again. It's just not, it's not, it's, I've been doing this for a }

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{ long time, it's still hard for me to do it sometimes. So if you haven't done anything for an extended period of time.}

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{Do not turn your life upside down. What you need to do is start very small. You need to start stacking wins. You need to start stacking self-confidence so when that time comes and we're a hundred percent all in on this thing, you continue to do it for the rest of your life versus doing it for a month or two months and falling off the wagon and not getting anywhere.}

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ So my brand has inspired stewardship and I run things through that lens of stewardship and that, yet over the years I've discovered that's one of those words that can mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. So when you hear the word stewardship, what does that word mean to you?}

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ Taking care of is what I think about when I hear stewardship. I think about. Taking care of this body that God has given me. I think about, using the finances that he's given me. I think about, taking care of my wife and kids in a }

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{ way that pleases him. Those are the examples that come top of mind when I think stewardship.}

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ So this is my favorite question that I ask everybody. Imagine for a moment that I could invent this magic machine. And with that machine, I was able to take you from where you are today and transport you into the future, maybe 150, maybe 250 years. But through the power of this machine, you were able to look back and see your entire life, see all of the connections, all of the ripples, all of the impacts you've left.}

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{What impact do you hope you've left in the world?}

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ That's an excellent question. I just hope that I leave it all on the table. I hope that when I leave here that I am exhausted. I hope that I have done everything that God has called me to do, everything that he set out before me when he created me. I hope that my children are worshiping him.}

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{I hope my children's children are worshiping him. I hope their children are worshiping him. }

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{ That's, as far as like legacy, that's my legacy. I just want to know that when I know I get to heaven and when I meet my maker that he tells me, well done, good and faithful servant. And he means it, and I'm exhausted because I did what he called me to do.}

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{And I didn't just sit on the sidelines and wait. }

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ So what's on the roadmap? What's coming next as you continue on this journey? }

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ Oh man. So we're still pretty early on in business. I've been doing this full time for. A little over six months. I've been doing it part-time for a couple years, we're, we've been full-time for a little over six months.}

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{Obviously we still have some building to do in the strength and nutrition space. But as far as further on down the road, what I would love to see from this business and what I'm working towards is going back to my farming roots in some way. So what I would love to do is to be able to coach guys, in their strength and also provide them with the nutrition that they need in, in, in a.}

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{Sustainable agriculture kind of way. Another thing that I would love to see on the horizon is I would love to get into }

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{ speaking, doing some speaking engagements and, inspiring some guys. That's something I would truly enjoy as well. }

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{\b\cf1 Scott Maderer:\b0}

{ So you can find out more about Sean over at his Instagram at the Sean McManus.}

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{Of course. I'll have a link to that over in the show notes as well. Sean, is there anything else you'd like to share with the listeners? }

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{\b\cf3 Sean McManus:\b0}

{ Man, I just challenge you guys. I challenge you to take steps towards growing whatever that looks like for you. Maybe it's growing a business, maybe it's growing in your self-leadership.}

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{Maybe it's getting closer to Christ. Whatever that looks like for you. I just challenge you to not only question why you do what you do, but also start taking some small action towards growing and getting better and becoming the man that God created you to be.}

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