Join us today for Part 3 of the Interview with author and coach Rob Riopel, author of Success Left A Clue...
This is Part 3 of the interview I had with speaker, coach, and author Rob Riopel.
In today’s interview with Rob Riopel, I ask Rob about his definition of leadership. Rob also talks about how we hold ourselves back from turning our dreams into reality. Rob also shares a bit about why the book took so long to write and how he had to get a swift kick to make it happen. Rob also shares some of his best public speaking tips.
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Episode 1026: Develop Your Influence - Interview with author and coach Rob Riopel â€“ Part 3
[00:00:00] Scott Maderer: Thanks for joining us on episode 1026 of the inspired stewardship podcast.
[00:00:07] Rob Riopel: I'm Robert Raymond, real Pell, and I challenge you to invest in yourself, invest in others and develop your influence and impact the world by using your time, your talent and your treasures to live out your. Having the ability to improve consistently over time is key.
[00:00:26] And one of the ways to be inspired to do that is to listen to this, the inspired stewardship podcast with my friend, Scott Mader.
[00:00:35] all right. You've been talking about this book for years time to get the damn thing written and he gave me the swift kick in the butt. What I would do is I'd go to my computer, I'd open it up and I'd go to and I don't know if you've ever experienced this. Scott, have you ever noticed that all of a sudden something would come up in your head, but within seconds you can't remember what it was and it's gone.
[00:00:56] Scott Maderer: Welcome and thank you for joining us on the inspired [00:01:00] stewardship podcast. If you truly desire to become the person who God wants you to be, then you must learn to use your time, your talent and your treasures for your true calling and the inspired stewardship podcast. We'll learn to invest in yourself, invest in others and develop your influence so that you can impact.
[00:01:22] And today's interview with Rob Rio Pell. I ask Rob about his definition of leadership. Rob also talks about how we hold ourselves back from turning our dreams into reality. And Rob also shares a bit about why the book success leaves clues took so long to write and how he had to have a swift kick to make it happen.
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[00:02:37] Robert Raymond real Pell is an international best-selling author app designer, entrepreneur and trainer, who has spent the past 18 plus years traveling around the world, sharing his passion. He has also shared the stage with and trained many of the top trainers and thought leaders in the world. Robert draws on his journey from humble beginnings to [00:03:00] financial freedom at the age of 32 to inspire individuals into tapping into their greatness, realizing that he is not the only person that struggles Robert's clues, open individuals up to the possibilities that lie within them.
[00:03:14] Welcome to the show, Rob. Hey, thanks God. Glad to be here. So Robert, one of the questions that I like to ask everyone that comes on the show. Around the word leadership, but this is one of those words that we all use. And yet I've discovered we often all mean something different by it. So for you, thank you about your teachings and what you do.
[00:03:35] How would you define leadership?
[00:03:37] Rob Riopel: For me, first of all, congruency, you, you can't give what you don't have going back to that saying again, but it also means lead by example. And when I say congruency is because I've seen and witnessed so many people who have, they say one thing, but they're totally doing something different.
[00:03:58] And that to me is not true [00:04:00] leadership being willing to admit we all have flaws. We're not perfect. Leadership is also knowing when it's time to allow someone else to lead. How many times do we, and I guess I can only again, speak for myself. I've watched someone who's an amazing leader. But when it's time for them to let someone else lead.
[00:04:19] Cause another person is better at something. They end up sabotaging things because they are not a good follower. And to me, some of the greatest leaders are also the greatest followers. If I'm not the leader, you better believe I'm going to support the leader at a thousand percent and play full on. So that to me is leadership.
[00:04:39] Scott Maderer: So your book success left a clue. You've you talk about how the idea for this book and much of the writing happened back in 2007, 2008 and before and yet I noticed that the publication dates like 2017. So you know, [00:05:00] we've been talking about taking action and all of those things.
[00:05:02] Can you talk a little bit about, why did it take use you as an example? Why did it take so long to go from the book to getting it out there into the world?
[00:05:09] Rob Riopel: Tamika even worse. God, I actually conceived of writing a book in 2002. There you go. Yeah. And it became an absolute procrastination.
[00:05:21] Without a doubt, look that which we need to learn the most we teach and everything I teach people is gone based on the journey I've lived. And so in 2002, I had a concept cause I heard someone on stage say, Hey, if you want to really take your life to another level and you need to write. So in that moment, I decided I'm going to write a book and I had come up with some different titles for it and all that in 2008.
[00:05:47] And I was started talking about it 2008, because I was burnt out. I had to take a break and I decided to take a year off, which turned into three and a half years. And when I took that break a good what, now [00:06:00] people understand what growth minded is a good growth mindset. Sat me down one day we were having a beer and he goes, all right, you've been talking about this book for years, time to get the damn thing written.
[00:06:10] And he gave me this swift kick in the butt. So what I would do is I'd go to my computer, I'd open it up and I'd go to write. And I don't know if you've ever experienced this. Scott, have you ever noticed that all of a sudden, some of them come up in your head, but within seconds you can't remember what it was and it's gone.
[00:06:26] Have you ever had that happen? So I'd sit there and I'd go, okay, what do I want to say? But before I could type it, it would be gone. And I get frustrated, close the computer couple of weeks later, I'd open up, do it again, close the computer. And I did this. For a couple of years of just frustration and all of a sudden I got one of those one handed claps and it's got, do you know what a one handed clap is?
[00:06:47] Scott Maderer: Yeah. The dull moment, right? That's right. The aha flat slap a gear head. You discovered the concept of a recorder.
[00:06:55] Rob Riopel: No, I'm I realized, I said, Robert, why are you struggling? You've never written a book [00:07:00] again, going back to talking to me. So you don't know how to write a book. That's why you're struggling.
[00:07:04] What do you know how to do while I know how to write a training? I know how to design a training. I know how to teach a training. So I took my computer backup and this time I opened it up to my table. And in two hours, I wrote a complete two or one day training based on the concept of my book. And as soon as I wrote the outline and what I wanted to teach, I then phoned up one of my students who had his own training company.
[00:07:29] Cause I'm on my hiatus, I'm on a break and I phoned him up and I said, Colin, when's your next three day training? And can I come down and teach the first cause he was an hour and a half flight away. I said, can I teach the first day of that training? And he's are you kidding me? I have been waiting for you to come up and show up and teach my students.
[00:07:48] So we set up two different dates where I went down and taught the first day. And yes, going, you gave it away. Cause you obviously understand this is I went and in the [00:08:00] moment I'm now onstage, I'm saying what I want and I'm in the flow I'm present. So the brilliance is coming. And we recorded it all.
[00:08:07] After the two trainings, we sent the recording to a ghost writer within two weeks. She put it into book format. Now that's still right around 2011. So the book, yes, took six more years because I now have the manuscript. And for some reason I just put it on the shelf. It didn't feel like. The right time. And I think part of that too, is I was still getting through burnout and I was now going through recovery from two back surgeries because I hadn't been taking care of myself.
[00:08:38] I went through to microdiscectomy is, and also I had fallen in because I went from over living my passion, Scott, which is bad to not living it at all on this time off. See, I was going to take one year off, which turned into three and a half because I got comfortable. Some of my old negative non-supportive habits started coming back.
[00:08:56] I didn't have the drive. I don't need to do this. We took care of money a [00:09:00] long time ago. I'm just going to enjoy life, all this crap that started going on in my head, I started becoming again a different person. And so the book got shelved and it wasn't until the beginning of 2017. I said, it's time now.
[00:09:14] What's interesting though. I am a big believer that everything happens for a reason when I pulled out the manuscript and I re-read it, I ended up rewriting half the. Because in that time from say 2011 to 2017, I'd come back out of retirement. I'm now traveling majorly around the world, getting new perspectives from different cultures, which was, became a big influence in the book as well.
[00:09:41] And that's why it took so long to come out
[00:09:43] Scott Maderer: And I think it's important to recognize again, you teach a lot of these things that doesn't mean that you don't still have challenges in those areas too, cause everyone always thinks the only thing they can teach is the thing that they know perfectly.
[00:09:56] It's no, you just better.
[00:09:58] Rob Riopel: Absolutely. [00:10:00] Absolutely.
[00:10:01] Scott Maderer: It's the old joke of, if you're one chapter ahead and the. You can still teach a student, you
[00:10:06] Rob Riopel: know and that's it, and be authentic of where you're at. Most people never get started. Yeah. Most people don't get started because they think they have to be perfect.
[00:10:15] That is such a load of crap. So if I'm going to teach someone weight loss, as an example, and I want to release 50 pounds, but I've only done 20 so far, I'm not going to be able to teach someone how to get to 50, but I can sit there and say, Hey, I've figured out a way to get started having. Not being overwhelmed.
[00:10:34] And from what I've developed, I've been able to release 20 pounds. So if you've ever struggled, getting started, contact me, I'll show you how to get started. And again, that comes back to that. Learn, do teach by teaching them how to get started and released the first 20 pounds. All of a sudden you're going to release more.
[00:10:50] So by the time you release more, you can now go back. Hey, congratulations. On the first 20, let's go to the next 15 because you've achieved it yourself. That's exactly how you [00:11:00] get, become an expert.
[00:11:00] Scott Maderer: So one of the things you talk about and success left a clue is, and we talked a little bit about this in earlier weeks, but I wanted to return to it and go a little deeper is how often many people do that step of dreaming.
[00:11:15] They may even dream big, but then they never take the steps that begin to turn it into a reality. So what are some of the things that hold people back in those in between those two steps?
[00:11:29] Rob Riopel: Big one. And it could be something as simple as I don't want people to know that I don't know. Or maybe I already have a level of prestige.
[00:11:37] And if people really knew that about me, that I'm struggling knit here, they might think less of me. Oh my God. The stories are going in our heads that hold us back. And again, this is where look how the three coaches, the two mentors, the one mastermind one of the things I love to do and going back to that experience the currency of experience as an example that we talked about in the first week is when I run, [00:12:00] I love running mastermind.
[00:12:01] But I don't just make them a mastermind. Now I make them an experiential mastermind. And because I want to be able to help people get through their obstacles that are holding them back because. Doubt and worry are probably the biggest obstacles I've seen. Most people come through. And so by and the reason I do an experiential mastermind and there is a a method to my madness and boy, am I mad?
[00:12:26] But when I bring a group of people together for the first time, I know them all maybe, but they don't know each other. And I ask them to mastermind and be of service to each other. Most people. It's I don't know them. Why would I give them my contacts? Why would I truly want to help him? But by making it experiential.
[00:12:43] Last January 20, 20, so months two months before the world changed, I decided to run a mastermind where eight of my students met me in Florida. We hopped on a private [00:13:00] jet. Now, why did I want to go on a private jet? I'd never been on. I've flown all around the world several times, but I've never been on a private jet.
[00:13:07] And I thought instead of paying to be on a private jet, why not get paid to go on a private jet? See, this is creativity. This is business, right? So I had eight students join me. We hopped on a private jet. We flew from Florida to The Bahamas to sandals resort sent two beautiful white rolls Royce cars to pick us up at the airport, gave us a full police escort through the city to the result.
[00:13:34] Now, already during that time, do you think that people were connecting and getting to know each other while we're experiencing this amazing trip? All of a sudden we get to the resort and we're there all day. We have breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and while we're there or now masterminding on the beach. And because everybody experienced something phenomenal.
[00:13:55] They got to know each other deeper, which when we did the masterminding, we created [00:14:00] seven figure businesses that day for every single person in that mastermind. Why? Because we had a deeper connection and we were willing to get over our own fears. And we were able to see in the other people, what was holding them back.
[00:14:14] So fear is the biggest reason. Fear. Don't worry as biggest reason why people don't move forward on their.
[00:14:20] Scott Maderer: So Robert is someone who's done a lot of speaking. You've talked several times about being on the stage and doing a lot of trainings and speakings, and now the masterminds as well. What tips do you have for people who are looking at using speaking as part of building authority and building influence, but maybe you're a little worried.
[00:14:38] Rob Riopel: Three words practice. Those are the keys. Those are critical. Again, one step in the right direction. Scott worth a thousand years of thinking about it. I don't care if you're standing in front of your dog or your cat, and you're talking to them and practicing, and something we referred to on one of the earlier shows is if the behind the [00:15:00] scenes ugly mundane, boring stuff.
[00:15:03] One of my favorite quotes from one of my mentors, every master was once a disaster and to become a master, you have to do something 10,000 times or 10,000 hours. People will come to me and they go, Robert, I want to do what you do. I want to travel around the world and teach people. What does it take?
[00:15:21] And I'll say tenacity and practice because what you don't see me doing behind the scenes allows what I do on stage to seem. So practice.
[00:15:33] Scott Maderer: So you could follow Robert on Twitter as Rob rocks 69, or find him on his website over at success, left a clue.com. He's also active on LinkedIn as real training, and you can find him on Facebook as the Robert Rio Pell. Of course I'll have links to all of that over in the show notes as well. Robert. Is there anything else you'd like to share with us?[00:16:00]
[00:16:01] Rob Riopel: Yeah. Scott, you were so gracious to have me on as a guest. What I would love to do for your listeners, because remember the currency of time to me, one of the most valuable commodities we have is our time. And the fact that you've taken your time to interview me and be here, but more importantly is your.
[00:16:18] Listeners have taken their valuable time to listen. What I'd love to do as a gift from us to them is my first book international best-selling book success left a clue is if they go to Robert real pell.com, just my name.com. They're actually going to be able to download the full digital version, not just a couple of chapters, but the full digital version of success left a clue as our gift to them.
[00:16:42] And I will say it does come with a caveat. I did not write this book for people to read it, put it on the shelf and make it shelf help. That's not why I wrote it. Remember, step number three in the book is take action. So all the way through the book, it's a workbook. I have action steps. And so what [00:17:00] I'm going to ask people to do is if you download the book, do the action steps.
[00:17:03] I promise you, you do it will change your life and law because I know people are creatures of habit. It'll even say in different chapters. Did you do the last action step, if not stop reading right now, go back. Do the action step and then start reading again because I know people are creatures of habit and I'd love to have them as a that for them to have that as a gift from the two of us, for taking their value.
[00:17:28] Scott Maderer: That is an awesome gift. And of course, I'll drop a link to that as well over in the show notes. So folks can find it easy, but I encourage you to download the book and read it, but even more take action on what's in the book as well.
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